Global Disable eltyra movement. - Block Glitching

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  1. HolyChickenStrip
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    you can still glitch yourself to lay on the floor with a trapdoor so to be honest i dont think there is a way to get around it, just gonna have to be one of those things that we are gonna have to live with

    then again this has never been an issue in my eyes so :thumbsup:
     
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    There's also no point in limiting what players can do on the server. Just world download the island and go around in singleplayer if you want to steal builds, going places on the server won't change anything.
     
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    Depends on the island. It may not be a big deal on YOUR island, but everyone's island is different.

    why would i place a trapdoor and not turn it off in /settings or private it in an area where I don't want people to crawl
     
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    No support, flying/gliding on someone elses island isnt a big deal. That's also why we have /lock and the option to turn off fly. Why are Eltryas problems?
     
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    Because turning off /fly doesn't stop elytras?
     
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    I've seen this said a couple times in this thread. But the thing is, this is up to the island owner to decide on an individual basis. It's their decision whether or not flying on their island is a big deal or not.


    Because Elytras override the option to turn off fly. If an island owner does not want visitors flying, and they turn fly off, people with Elytras can still visit and fly.

    Imagine there was an item, which you can purchase for in-game money, which allowed other people to interact with your redstone on your island. Even if you have the redstone interaction setting turned off, this item overrides that setting, and they can do it anyway regardless of island permissions. Imagine a thread on the forums where people are saying "Well playing with people's redstone is no big deal, and anyway that's why you have a setting to turn redstone interaction off."

    That's what this thread sounds like to me.
     
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    Maybe we can all meet in the middle and say visitors can use elytra by default in /settings? ;I
     
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    i know. But why is that problem seriously!
     
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    Some people's main income on sb comes from their redstoning and farm designs, so they're highly motivated to keep them hidden (many players hide their most lucrative farms on locked alts for this reason). Some other players are just extremely private people who require a personal storage area away from prying eyes to feel comfortable.

    Personally I have just made peace with the fact that if people really wanna see my off limit island areas they can just ghost thru or schematic it and see what I have hidden, so it doesn't really matter to me.
     
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    its almost like you can build a box with blocks that stops people from getting into these "hidden" redstone areas like every other casino ingame, this still doesnt stop people using the baritone/minecraft noclip camera plugins
     
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    The problem, to which I'm suggesting a simple Isle preference toggle addition, is that for any players that wish to turn Fly Off on their own islands, players can still fly using elytras. This would give players access to areas players can't access otherwise.

    Example: I make a parkour course, where if you're able to fly, you'd finish it easy by flying to the end

    If I turn fly off. Players have to follow the parkour. They can't cheat and fly from one point to another.

    If players have an elytra. Then elytras allow for a different type of player movement. Meaning they can fly and "swim" through the air. Flying like the superman pose. Those players with elytras can use this feature of that specific item. To glide through gaps that are as small as half a block tall.

    Normal flying doesn't allow this type of movement. So regular players can't access gaps that are smaller than 1 block.


    Please, if you are confused on how elytras work. Load a.creative world. Give yourself an elytra with a few rockets. And have a bounce around and fly. You'll learn how they can allow players to gain access through gaps to an advantage regular flying players won't have.


    Tldr, My suggestion is this: allow players to disable elytra movements on their island. (A vanilla option in your game creation settings.)

    This would only turn then off on your own island and is a preference so can be toggled off if wished. Or left on as standard.
     
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    That's what I was thinking about would be the main use; parkour.
     
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    Support. When I host my parkour minigames, I have to watch like a hawk to make sure players don't use their elytra. XD
     
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    Because it's an in-game item which directly overrides your island settings. The problem with that is pretty obvious.
     
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    no biggie lol, just dont think this suggestion warrants any action to be honest.
    its an non-issue issue that we have had to put up with for years and there are always different ways to glitch in or fly/crawl.

    even if you remove elytra flying people can still build up with blocks if they can place them faster the the game can remove them
     
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    Hardly "for years". We only made the move from 1.12.2 to 1.19.2 not even two years ago. You could enter a pseudo-form of crawling in 1.12.2, but it didn't become an official feature until 1.14. Since then, elytra allows you to easily enter crawling essentially anywhere you want. If we're able to remove that ability in /settings for visitors because we don't want them to, then we need to worry about players going somewhere they're not supposed to a lot less. Besides that and swimming, they become limited to niche situations (if a piston pushes the player a certain way, if a tree grows over a player, etc.)
     
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    this truly isn't a big deal. if you want something hidden, lock your island or build a box around it.

    Suggestions don't get added much, if they add 1 suggestion for the first 6 months of 2025 would you want it to be such a frivolous addition?

    Changing from neutral to no support
     
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    I meant we have had to deal with blocking off parts of our islands for years, gang even if they do add this there is nothing stopping people from block gltiching, using baritone/freecam or just straight up downloading the island with schematica to copy the builds
     
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    Okay point out 5 suggestions you feel are better. You've given your opnions, and received criticism. Is it a top priority suggestion? Probably not. But it is a qol suggestion that if added would benefit a few players that wish to use it.

    Going by your logic noone should post a suggestion because they won't get added on game. Suggestions are being worked through, there's many better suggestions for sure. So don't mine me if I keep posting suggestions I feel would benefit the server in the meantime.

    Ps. You all seem to have entirely looked over the point of this suggestion and instead used it to start arguments. If you are unfamiliar with how an elytra works, go offline and try them out. Elytra movements vs flying are entierly different. I've explained the suggestion enough. And offered help to show my examples in game. So maybe try this suggestion, leave your no supports and move on to the next suggestion you feel is better. Onelove:heart::thumbsup:
     
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    I know, its just not a big issue someone flying, what could you possibly have that's so secretive your not the cia :pomp:
     
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