Staff Applications being rejected due to inactivity on either survival/eco/forums/discord is a joke.

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Should They Scrub the Staff Teams and Start Over With Some Level of Unbiased Picks

  1. Yes, obviously.

  2. No, I don't care if skyblock falls further/I like being on staff.

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  1. MrEPro
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    What are you saying? The staff team doesn't care? What is this 'type' of person widely prioritised in the staff hires?
     
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  2. Grepatue
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    Oh why do you think I was bold enough to finally bring this issue into the spotlight. I can no longer be affected by the blowback.
     
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    You started this thread with the wrong intentions. It's problematic to come with that tone and then not read the responses in their entirety and reiterate issues that have been cleared up. These problems are not new, and some of what you said is valid, but there's a way to approach them.
     
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    I won't go into direct attacks. That isn't classy. You know these answers though. I am sure some of the staff legit does care. I never said that none do. If you want specifics you can DM me.

    No I started this thread because in 5 years I have seen no change or attempts to change the issues. I read the posts in their entirety thank you for doubting me. The issues have not been cleared up. That is the problem. Some blanket statement made by usually staff does not satiate the issues. Players on SB are afraid to state what they feel due to blowback. Hence the public nature of how I did it.

    I will state before this thread likely gets thrown under a rug that I am happy that people see the issue and are willing to talk about it. I hope something happens though.
     
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    Genuinely then, what do you want? Krissy already cleared everything up, and her response was accurate. What more is there to achieve? Current staff are not holding up positions. If you want a genuine discussion, sure, but the way you began this thread was negative and disrespectful towards the staff team, so what do you expect?

    I was an applicant once that waited a while as well, and the team did actually try to implement changes to help with the application process. Things are not perfect though. We can try and discuss this properly but you would need to take what is said into consideration instead of listening to respond.
     
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    Sorry that happened or congratulations
     
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    wait omg thank you!!!
     
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    why not just kinda make an inactivity role/tag so that they can just remove it whenever life is out of the way?

    i've seen inactivity roles/notices work in other servers and it could work in sb.
     
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    i don’t really think an inactivity tag is necessary. players know which staff are available to get ingame and always contact those first, and players who don’t know which staff are available tend to not be contacting them. the only people who are upset about inactivity are long term players who know who is a good staff member to reach out to or not
     
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    i feel like separating the teams to eco and skyblock specific does not help the issue of inactive staff, because there will be times where someone is on one server moderating when there will be no one else on the other. if you split teams you create an unnecessary divide. could you imagine being a staff member on /skyblock and a player comes from /economy searching for help because there’s no active staff on there, and someone’s spamming the n word, but you can’t do anything because you’re not a staff member on the economy server, only skyblock?

    staff don’t base their full opinions on people’s supports and stuff - they are humans who form their own opinion based on what they see from the applicants
     
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    I think new staff wouldn’t hurt, but I don’t think we are in a major lack of staff either. There are staff you can message and they reply and get on when they can, I think adding more staff won’t fix any possible inactivity. Players will still complain about the inactive staff.


    While I do believe in every applicant, I am curious on why some people are so sure that the new applicants won’t go inactive as well? You guys preach to promote new staff but what happens if we do and they go inactive? We’re back in the same spot. The same situation. I feel like the issue is something that is not as easily fixed as most people want it to be.
     
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    Unfortunately there is a wording issue in the post as the only denial and rejection of applications is staff closing applications. If you were talking specifically about players giving no support based on activity levels or other standards then I believe it’s not something we endorse giving as feedback anyway therefore we judge activity ourselves to have fairly active staff join.

    Player feedback is mostly for the applicant’s benefit. If we put just figure on it, about 10-20% of the decision is based on the application. It is a factor in seeing if the community believes in a person as a representative.

    So I’m only reassuring applicants to take comments as feedback and no matter what feedback, take it. Because if you join staff this thread is the feedback you get. You get polls suggesting you are biased and need to be demoted and rehired assessed on if you are a “biased person”. It doesn’t matter how liked of a staff you are either. You get lumped into a group so it does apply to you. If you get upset over no supports you are in for a shock.

    However the whole post is a collection of different complaints and these usually come around to boost someone’s application or pressure into hiring.

    Others have made good points and we can look into those. But until we are ready to hire applicants, all people interested in staff can read what I’ve mentioned previously which is advice I think helps.
    Otherwise this thread just comes across as common staff hate rather than a genuine concern due to the poll and wording in the main post.
    I hope in the future we have more constructive posts.
     
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    'staff don’t base their full opinions on people’s supports and stuff - they are humans who form their own opinion based on what they see from the applicants' Yep that's the clique I was talking about.

    'Unfortunately there is a wording issue in the post as the only denial and rejection of applications is staff closing applications.' It's a figure of speech...they are denied their chance, it wasn't literal.
    'Because if you join staff this thread is the feedback you get. You get polls suggesting you are biased and need to be demoted and rehired assessed on if you are a “biased person”. It doesn’t matter how liked of a staff you are either. You get lumped into a group so it does apply to you. ' This simply is not true. I do not lump you all in the same boat. Just most of you.
    'these usually come around to boost someone’s application or pressure into hiring' So assuming. Like honestly. I stated why I made the post now of all times.
    'until we are ready to hire applicants' Maybe you all should be transparent with the community and let them know they have no shot in heck right now instead of letting worthy people watch their applications rot away not knowing that ya'll aren't even gonna consider them. That is just a lack of communication.
     
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    I feel like we need more staff and more active staff, i dont understand why there are some staff members that disappear for almost a year and continue being in the staff list (as mentioned before) i think most of the staff is doing a great job tho, i just wish there were more staff. I also feel that some people should get there applications accepted more because i think itd be a benefit.
     
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    This already happens to us on eco, and half of the time our only recourse is to wait until the trolls get bored and go away, because no one's active or available to come clean up chat.

    Eco definitely needs more active staffing. I don't care what the solution to that is, whatever we need, I'm in. I'll encourage staff applications and support the new apps and whatever else will help.
     
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    too long didnt read but ngl i think promoting queen to co owner would fix alot of these issues :thumbsup:

    my only question is why are we leaving the staff that have obviously quit still up on the /staff page? i mean cyk has been offline for 720 days gang i think their gone :pomp::thumbsup:
     
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    If you read the replies, there are explanations.
     
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    iont wannan :(
     
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