I don't know why this outdated system is still in place but my suggestion is that you restrict island resets to 3 per account, and any reset afterwards requires you to pay up 64 grass blocks(or more). This whole situation could have easily be fixed by now, it's only giving unnecessary work to staff and restricting dirt trade and it's other variants like podzol or mycelium for literally no reason. It's like it's intentionally made for people to abuse it ._.

 

This would make getting a mapart island even worse, no support

 

Took me a good bit to get a mapart island, so also no support. Also I'm not sure why this was tagged as Skyblock when you can apply the same logic to Economy as well if it was that big of an issue?

 

no matter what time frame u set or cost its always gonna be thing , we all have alts and just do it over time and just save all our stuff on alts when we wanna redo our main islands / shops etc , its just spaced out so no point in changing anything

 

Given island generation occurs in a known pattern It’s not difficult to determine exactly when a map art island is coming up. Doing this is much less effort than trial and error.

Perhaps when an island is replaced, a check is done on how much dirt and sand exists on the island already. The /level command already exists to check block types and numbers. If the island being replaced has no dirt or sand, then the island is replaced with a cobblestone island.
This wouldn’t stop players farming lava buckets or other starter items, but dirt is the main thing people farm islands for.

 

No support, at least not the way you've suggested but I wouldn't know how it should be. But theres more reasons to not support. As people have said getting a centered island for map arts can be really time consuming, also I can imagine people who want islands next to each other and getting the expansions so they have a massive island would be even more impossible to obtain as well

I don't think having to be charged to reset your island is ever a good idea either because people would probably quit instead of restarting their island if they've became unhappy with it, and if you get stuck in a biome where its something you dislike (example snowy) you'd have to pay to change your island and then to change its biome to something else which is an unsee-able cost that you wouldn't really be able to predict.

I imagine this isn't a major thing that is taking up moderation time either because if someone does abuse the system it wont take long for things not to add up and eventually be caught out, and I don't think its a very common issue.
Having dirt being tradable would be alright because I think sand once was illegal to trade on the old server but I cant imagine dirt ever being legal to trade, but I'd like to be wrong haha

 

You can change the biome of your island for like 10g

 

Maybe it would have been a half decent idea if you suggested paying ~64 dirt blocks to reset the island. It could even count the grass/dirt placed on the island and in your inventory to surrender before resetting.

 

I know thats what I mean, situational: you've build an island, want a new one, you spend the cost to go to a new island which is snowy, and now you have to pay more grass to change the biome

 

No support.

 

It's different from economy because you have a /shop, so atleast you're only getting free stuff instead of buying it to make your croppers I guess. On skyblock, you can only obtain dirt via placing grass or island farming. But you're right, I haven't thought much about it because I don't play economy as much. I've changed it to global ;P

I suggested 3 free resets because I think that's enough for new players to feel accommodated and be aware of it(/biome exists for a reason...). You're still able to do anything else, but you'll have to pay the fee. Usually when people go for multiple islands on new alts, they do it the moment they enter the server, but with a big project like that. paying a stack of grass feels very minimal in my opinion, since you'll be getting dirt in return either way. I mentioned staff because I've seen multiple people being banned for island farming, and I'm sure they have to check it manually on this big influx of new players everyday. Of course, it's their job, but it's something that could have been facilitated ages ago.

Can u elaborate? I never had issues with this! If you know how to check if island is centered, just visit new players that just joined in and check the island generation pattern with the coordinates and calculate new islands, atleast that was what I did on my alt first try without any problem.

Unfortunately dirt it's not the only thing people farm, so neither would solve island farming problem.

I don't get it, how is it gonna be a thing if you won't be able to do it with this suggestion? Sure, everyone has alts, but alts would be restricted as well. Unless microsoft supplies you with infinite minecraft accounts, you're very unlikely to be able to abuse it unless you're spending big time for some dirt on a minecraft server xD

 

Would be much more simple to just increase the cooldown if anything…but again people just use alts. If someone is determined to do something, they will find a work around no matter what. If it won’t change much besides making stuff harder for the players just trying to enjoy the game.
Personally I know I’ve reset my island more than 3 times. Not frequently or anything, just rebuilding every once and awhile because it’s usually easier to do that instead of taking the time to tear everything down.

 

I don't play Skyblock much hence the confusion but thanks for the clarification (and also for changing it to global) lol.

 

My only goal of this suggestion(on Survival Server) was to make it so dirt can be tradeable, and consecutively make it cheaper and more accessible than grass. New players wouldn't have such a troubled time starting out then. As we're all aware, obtaining it other than placing grass is AGAINST THE RULES, so the current system is COMPLETELY UNFRIENDLY TO NEWBIES, unless they go out of their way and break the rules. I don't see much disadvantages with this suggestion, even if you pay grass after the 3 free resets you'll be getting dirt in return which would be tradeable, so it's not a complete waste as everyone is trying to make it look.

Economy server, on the contrary, isn't as big of an issue since everything is easily available. Sure, it's still a way to infinitely farm balance through player trading or for croppers, but you're very likely to get caught owning or trading around lots of dirt.

You're exaggerating a bit on that world peace, people aren't willing for a change since I guess this isn't as heavily monitored by staff, otherwise I'm sure this would be a bigger issue. I've only suggested 64 grass so that dirt wouldn't be completely worthless, this price can be discussed obviously. The lower the price, the more worthless dirt will be, hence the reason I set it up high.

 

I rated neutral on this suggestion. I actually agree with legalizing dirt trade, and have suggested it before, because I think the rule against trading dirt is unintuitive for new players.

Unfortunately, as people have brought up in both threads - any sort of limit or cooldown makes it much harder to discover map art islands, can hinder new players who are trying out different islands, and is easily bypassed with alt accounts.

I do hope that something can be done to solve for all of these things, because it's still my belief that dirt trade should be legal (and island farming should continue being illegal) but finding the right way to implement those rules is difficult.

 

Stop ruining the game. Some of us actually still enjoy island farming regularly.

 

neutral leaning on no support but if there was a way to restrict resetting so often, it could be like a 24h-48h cooldown or something idk if a cooldown already exists but i know damn well no one is paying grass to reset bc some people need to reset more than 3 times even greenies, but the suggestion itself isnt the worst idea

 

i like the idea

 

As far as I see it, the only reason dirt trading is illegal is to prevent island farming.
The method that Sky and myself have mentioned above would put an end to island farming. For dirt and sand anyway.
If this is implemented, then dirt trade can possibly be made legal.
I don't know if staff are being more lenient on dirt trade now, but a player who's just returned from a ban for dirt trading/island farming has been left with all the dirt that was traded. In the past, traded dirt has been confiscated.
And this wasn't small scale, it was about 27 DC's that I know of, but I suspect it was much more.
Maybe they've just forgotten to remove the dirt?

 

Stuff WAY MORE controversial has happened recently on skyblock, but seems like staff didn't do much about it either. I won't talk about it here, but it's good to know some people are more favored over others...