Support but it needs some balancing

Isn't that kinda the point of mining, you collect various mineral via excavating environment while searching for rare one (quartz), pretty normal for me but I do agree it can be annoying sometime, my solution would be filling up your inventory with quartz before start mining if you hate them since that is the main purpose why you come to the nether right?

They also solely serve as building blocks and most of the time building requires a lot block to do, I don't think making something that have no use beside building rare is a good idea.

My idea would be 1/2 drop rate without silk touch and 100% with silk touch, as the whole point of silk touch is to... you know collect or being able to collect thing easier (blocks don't get screwed breaking apart, a notable usage: melon) so following up that logic I think it's pretty self explanatory and you also can't break quartz ores with silk touch pickaxe, 1/32 is just too low IMO.

The only downside I think would be losing a very good recyclable scaffolding block if this get approved, though snow block is simply a better choice for that purpose (like bridging over lava) since one stone shovel basically equals 66 snow blocks and stick is pretty easy to get too.

Retrieving placed snow blocks is also impossible without a shovel, which is perfect for your inventory I guess.

but still... imagine fighting blaze with snowballs from shoveling snow blocks lmao

 

Agreed. also snow blocks are a really good alternative for upward scaffolding too

 

This is actually a good idea. However, the point of my suggestion was also to transition netherrack into a block that is somewhat coveted (like end stone, end suggestion notwithstanding). How would you feel about a slightly increased drop rate with silk touch? say, from 1/32 to 1/24. This would allow people to go into the nether to farm for netherrack, but it wouldn't make the block too common or silk touch too exploitable. Also, since silk touch can't collect nether quartz, it would make up for that a little bit.

I should also mention that one of the reasons that I am making this suggestion is that you can't find netherrack in stock in any shops. It simply isn't worth people's time to farm for a block that can be so easily obtained. This drop rate reduction would transition netherrack from a trash item that noone keeps to a block that could be mined alongside or instead of nether quartz, not only allowing people to make better use of their time in the nether but also making netherrack a welcome addition to the inventory. The increase in island levels is to accomodate that change, making it more useful in displays (such as a "fake" nether). This, coupled with the drop rate reduction, would provide exigency for players to both collect and stock netherrack in their stores.

As you have mentioned yourself, many other blocks also fill the role of "easily obtainable junk filler block", a very specific role. The loss of netherrack in this list would be heavily reduced by the myriad of other blocks in that category (snow, cobble, stone, etc...).

Again, I would love your response to this. also tagging HeroDJBrine so that I can hear what YOU think of it (quite interested in your thoughts). I enjoyed reading both of your responses and thinking of what to say.

Have a nice day, all.

 

I like the idea of using a silk pickaxe to get netherack. And since you cant use a silk pretty much anything in the nether, people will use fortune pickaxes and it'll act like a netherack filter. I would agree making netherack drop close to 0% with fortune pickaxe but 100% with silk pickaxe. In addition, silk pickaxes are quite cheap, just around 6 diamonds.

I'm not really a fan of scaffolding across the nether with snow block though, because you have to come prepared with a enough stock of it beforehand. However with netherack you can gather as many as you like quickly wherever in the nether whenever you run out.

 

I'm not sure decreasing the drop rate will increase the presence in shops, it may increase price, but that doesn't make it more enjoyable to collect, the rate could be left the same and if shops never have stock, they can marginally increase the price.

As a buyer ( I don't know skyblock prices) would be happy to pay say 1 grass for 500 instead of 1 grass for 600 because no one is every stocked

But reduce the rate and shops might charge 1 grass for 100 for example but for the same uses to the buyer, now they may just not buy it. I don't believe this vanilla aspect of the server should be changed as it is easy enough to dump and there are plenty of scarce other items.

 

I agree with you 100%

 

You improved it!

I gotta admit 1/2 is still too high for making netherrack rarer.

I interpreted your idea as that the nether is a resource world that regenerate itself monthly, all resources there logically should have altered drop rate in order to maintain their value, feel free to point me out if I'm wrong.

Consider this is skyblock, resource collecting need some degree of challengingness I agree.

I love them because they're cheaper to both generate and retrieve in term of material cost (a cobble and 2 sticks) comparing to stone-based blocks (3 cobblestone and 2 sticks) but the con is requiring few clicks to craft back to block and needing to be pre-prepared in overworld, though this might be considered inefficient by rich or well-geared players.

They're also technically an inefficient weapon against blaze and a good block to distinguish in an environment that is mostly red if you think about it.

Overall this is just my solution based on "if netherrack is rare", in my experience I usually just... carry some stick, cobble, bowl and 4 stacks of snow blocks while mining quartz in the nether, anyway it worked pretty great for me as an early-game player xD

 

Bumping - Has it already been almost a year since I suggested this?

I DONT WANNA GROW OLDER