All I ask is that before this ban appeal is denied is that I am giving a change to defend myself and try to talk out my ban - try to prove I'm allowed back, not just get an instant deny like my other appeals. That's all I want, thank you.

1. Server/platform (Classic / Skyblock / Forums / Discord ): Skyblock.
2. In-game name: twxntyonepilots, banned on BisexualPride too.
3. Full exact Ban Message: "Please keep negative and/or offensive comments to yourself. This server is also not the place to be talking about suicidal intentions. Please rethink your actions"
4. Did you read the rules ? Yes, I did.
5. Why do YOU think you were banned? I think I was banned for calling Moulds the b word. I would say "oh I did it because he body shamed me and told me to stab myself" and all of this, but truth be told, I called him that because he annoyed me. I came on this server just to talk to my friends and build my islands, and he decided to just, start harassing me one day. I got annoyed, given the fact that not only did this start randomly, I was given no reason on why it was started or what I did. So after being harassed and called names, I was annoyed, so I lashed out, calling him the b word. It was the only time I lashed out on him, the other times I was just silent and I had reported everything and anything he said, in hopes he would stop. I told him this, I believe around the time he called me 100 kilos. I was told last night by Cyk to ignore him, which I did. I was told a while back that if I needed to talk, whatever it be about, was to dm staff. The most recent "suicidal intention" thing I said was in a private message between me and a staff member, which is where I was told to keep it.
6. Was this an incorrect ban? It wasn't. I deserve this ban - to be down right honest with you. I just, I don't know, I just want a chance, I guess. I would say a second chance, but we know that's long gone, just, another chance to try to start over.
7. Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? I have been banned, several times. I don't recall most of the reasons.
8. Why do you think you should be unbanned? I think I should be unbanned because I want to try to prove that I am worthy of coming back. I know it's only a 7 day ban but I just want to try to prove that I am worthy of being a member of this server, and being allowed to stay on. I know most stuff I have said, no matter to who it be when mad, example, Moulds, bard, and other people, was not right. I know it wasn't, but I've been trying to change, truthfully. I've been told by a mod that he has saw the change I've been trying to make, which makes me happy beyond all ends. I want to show to mostly Cyk and Michael, but the rest of the staff team too, that I am can change. I believe that I am able to change and prove it. Please, take this into consideration. Thank you.

Michael

 

so now that its been a full 24 hours and I've saw staff view this, is there any news on when I'm gonna get a reply?

 

Hello Trin,

I apologize for the late reply. I am not currently at home, and have limited internet access as I am quite busy throughout the day.

While the situation with Moulds did influence my decision to remove you from the server for seven days, I would like to make it very clear that it was an accumulation of recent infractions, inappropriate behavior, as well as multiple previous warnings to change your behavior. You not only repeatedly insulted Moulds, despite the fact that you two were told to cease all communication, as it often ended in arguments and name calling due to differing viewpoints, but also distributed extremely offensive and/or inappropriate books, insulting others, making suicidal threats, and vividly describing your experiences with self harm, despite the fact that you have been told many times not to do so.

While I understand that you may have personal issues that truly do need to be dealt with, you must also understand that this is not the place to be discussing them. It makes many players extremely uncomfortable, and we take situations like these very seriously. It is essential that we come to the mutual understanding that Minecraft is not the place to come when you need to talk to someone about suicidal intentions, or experiences with self harm.


Regardless of how well you may know some people on here, the fact of the matter is that I can, with a very large degree of certainty, make the assumption that none of them have any sort of personal connection with you, in real life. Online communities can be extremely dangerous, if used without taking the time to learn what sort of personal details should and should not be shared with those that you may develop a relationship with. While there is nothing wrong with having close friends within various online communities, you must understand that there are many topics that should only be discussed with others that you have a genuine personal connection with, that can actually provide support when needed, with suicide and self harm being one of those topics.

Not only does it make some users extremely uncomfortable, but it also puts you in a very dangerous situation, as the tiniest mistake could lead to the information being shared with quite literally anyone who bothers to search for it. While this is not meant to justify harassment whatsoever, I would also like you to keep in mind that in some situations it is also your responsibility to help end the cycle.


To use a specific example from your history, you have repeatedly complained to various staff members about being harassed or made fun of, either for sexual orientation, personal appearance, or private conversations that had been leaked. Again, while this does not justify these actions in any way whatsoever, I would like you to consider for a moment if any of this would have been possible if you simply chose to avoid mentioning your sexual orientation; if you avoided sharing pictures of yourself; if you avoided extremely personal conversations with players over the internet. Is your sexual orientation, personal/family issues, or physical appearance an essential aspect of your online identity? Does this information have to be shared in order for you to form friendly relationships with others on the server?

To answer the question: No. None of this information is necessary, nor should you ever feel that you have to share it, especially if you are uncomfortable doing so. Have I ever explicitly stated my sexual orientation? Do I publicly share various issues going on in my life with the server? Have you ever seen a picture of me? How much do you know about my life outside of this server? Despite the fact that the answer to all of these questions is no, and is also the same for many others, those who are truly invested in becoming a positive influence are able to form perfectly normal relationships, without sharing any personal details.

If you wish, I feel that it would be a meaningful exercise to attempt to list all of the information that you can think of off the top of your head, regarding my personal identity, aside from what can be considered common knowledge, such as my first name. I can safely ask you to do this, because I know what I have shared, and what I have not; I intentionally separate my personal life from Skyblock, when possible, as there is no need for others to know exactly what goes on in my day-to-day life. After doing this, try to interpret what this exercise says about the what sort of information is necessary to share, and what information is completely useless, when determining one's ability to interact in an appropriate manner on this server.

To avoid unnecessary divergence from the original point, I will keep this short; however, in this situation, I feel that it is important to stress the fact that there is absolutely no need to share extremely personal details with others over the internet, and I, personally, would strongly recommend against it. It might take some adjusting; however, there is absolutely no reason that extremely personal details need to be shared when interacting with others through online communities.

These sorts of conversations are meant to be had with someone that has real experience dealing with similar issues, such as a therapist or community counselor, not users over the internet with whom you have no prior experience, in real life.


This ban was meant to server as a temporary "time out", per se, from the server, as I believe that you need to take this time to reconsider your actions, as well as your personal philosophy with regards to how you want to act going forward. Distributing copies of offensive books, stories of suicidal intentions and/or self harm, or harassment, will no longer be tolerated, and future infractions will lead to increasing severity of punishments. If you genuinely need someone to talk to, please remember that this is not the place to discuss extremely personal issues. Please either contact your therapist, or if you do not have one, talk to an adult or authority figure in your family, so that they can help set you up with one. If for some reason, you are not able to do this, I would also like you to take advantage of the following suicide prevention hotline, which is available 24/7. We are not able to deal with any of these issues; however, we can do our best to guide you to resources that will be able to help you.
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24/7 Support Number: 1-800-273-8255




I would like to apologize for any misunderstandings, as well as any comments that may have come across in the wrong way during this response. I do not believe you are a bad person; you simply make mistakes. If you truly want to prove to the staff team that you are capable of changing your behavior at the current moment, please take this time to rethink your actions, and consider how you wish to act after the ban expires.




With all of that being said, I will now leave this thread open for you to attempt the exercise if you wish, as I believe that it will be a valuable experience. Please also feel free to ask any clarifying questions you may have regarding the situation, or what sort of behavior will be expected of you, from now on.
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" You not only repeatedly insulted Moulds, despite the fact that you two were told to cease all communication, as it often ended in arguments and name calling due to differing viewpoints, but also distributed extremely offensive and/or inappropriate books, insulting others, making suicidal threats, and vividly describing your experiences with self harm, despite the fact that you have been told many times not to do so."

I called moulds the B word, once. After he had called me 100 kilos, told me stab myself, and called me cancer twice.

I would like to know what books I distributed that "was inappropriate, insulting others, and making suicidal threats"

As for my self harm book, the people who I had let read it had already known some of the situation. I didn't explain it fully through messages so I wrote the book to explain the full thing. And I've even had people pick up that book and read it. I've never made a single suicidal threat, either.

Oh, and as for the "cease communication" I was actually only informed this the night before I was banned. I called him the b word, the only thing, a few days before this. The most recent report on him was actually me getting on my alt to ignore him - which I have not done yet because once again I was harassed so I left my computer.

"While I understand that you may have personal issues that truly do need to be dealt with, you must also understand that this is not the place to be discussing them"

I've been told by several staff to keep it out of general chat and instead dm them, which is what I have done for the most part. Now you're telling me to keep it off the server in general - saying that they're just online and I can't trust them and stuff like this.

"Please either contact your therapist, or if you do not have one, talk to an adult or authority figure in your family, so that they can help set you up with one. If for some reason, you are not able to do this, I would also like you to take advantage of the following suicide prevention hotline, which is available 24/7."

Do you wanna pay for a therapist for me or pay my phone bill? Because neither of them are paid - hence the reason I come onto here to talk. Just because you have the luxuries of having a paid phone bill and travelling like this doesn't mean everyone does.

"To use a specific example from your history, you have repeatedly complained to various staff members about being harassed or made fun of, either for sexual orientation, personal appearance, or private conversations that had been leaked. Again, while this does not justify these actions in any way whatsoever, I would like you to consider for a moment if any of this would have been possible if you simply chose to avoid mentioning your sexual orientation; if you avoided sharing pictures of yourself; if you avoided extremely personal conversations with players over the internet"

Mainly focusing on the sexual orientation part, I tell people because once I get close to people, they typically let me rant to them about relationship problems I've had or am dealing with (Hence Ashley, she knows I'm pansexual so I can talk to her about my girlfriend or boyfriend.) Once I get close to them, it'll save time trying to also explain that in the mist of me being upset.
Oh, and as for the "leaked pictures",

Hidden Content:

**Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by staff members**

" None of this information is necessary, nor should you ever feel that you have to share it, especially if you are uncomfortable doing so."
I was never uncomfortable with showing people my selfies, my sexual orientation, or talking to people I trusted about how my parents fight a lot and it makes me scared to be in my own house sometimes. What made me uncomfortable is when some of my friends would use those issues against me if we fought. My Instagram is public, and I've posted selfies in the IRL pictures thread - so selfies are the least of my concerns. The leaked pictures, as stated in the hidden part, is the pictures I care about. I would ask if you would like to discuss the leaked pictures to keep them in private and not for everyone to hear.

"Regardless of how well you may know some people on here, the fact of the matter is that I can, with a very large degree of certainty, make the assumption that none of them have any sort of personal connection with you, in real life. "
I've had the options to know some of these people in real life - several times.

"If you wish, I feel that it would be a meaningful exercise to attempt to list all of the information that you can think of off the top of your head, regarding my personal identity, aside from what can be considered common knowledge, such as my first name."
You're a 16 year old male from New Mexico, born May 1st. You've been to Oklahoma and Illinois. Your father is from Russia, and you go there sometimes. (might make you have a bit of Russian in you). You speak Russian - fluent enough to hold a conversation but not talking. You're in 11th grade (just going off your age) You have a brother who was 7 in 2016. (Unaware of birthdate) You had/have a dog who once stole a whole jalapeno. You have/had a white cat, who was in a plastic water casing. You golf. Your dog is black. You beat your friend in chess before.

 

any news on what the books was?

 

The actions of other players does not justify inappropriate comments you may have made. This is not Moulds' appeal; it is yours. I can assure you that we take all forms of harassment very seriously, and if sufficient evidence was provided, the situation has already been handled. As clarified in my previous response, I would also like to stress again that this infraction was not caused by a single incident, but rather an accumulation of recent infractions after being warned to change your behavior multiple times. You were not banned for calling Moulds a "B word"; you were removed from the server for repeatedly insulting players, making others feel uncomfortable, making extremely disrespectful/inappropriate comments, and an apparent inability to significantly change your behavior even after being given multiple warnings, mutes, and bans, for similar reasons.

I am quite literally unable to view your full infraction history in-game, without needing to refer to the Minecraft logs stored on my own computer, because there are too many entries.

I would also like to ensure that both of us are aware that this was not your first time being warned to stop arguing with players, insulting them, causing unnecessary drama, or making others feel uncomfortable. If you wish to have the privilege of further interacting with this community, you must show that you are capable of significantly changing your behavior; we will no longer be nearly as lenient, and I would like to make it clear that this sort of behavior is not acceptable under any circumstances.

I apologize if my comment came across the wrong way. My intention was not to give the impression that you cannot ever trust anyone on the internet, but rather that if you don't want others using personal information or inside knowledge of your personal life against you, the responsibility also falls on yourself to avoid sharing this sort of information in the first place. Again, this does not at all justify the actions of those who use it against you, in an attempt to make you angry or uncomfortable; however, many of these situations could have easily been avoided if you had been more careful with regards to how you interact with others on this platform.

There is no issue with trusting people, even if you only know their online personality; however, with that being said, there are some conversations that should only be had with those that you know in real life. Not because no one can be trusted, but because Minecraft is not the place to be sharing extremely personal details of your life.

To answer your question: Yes.
Yes, I am telling you to keep it off the server. This is not the place to be discussing your personal problems, especially when it begins to make others feel uncomfortable. It has been allowed to continue for too long, and this ban was meant to serve as a warning that future infractions will lead to more severe punishments, with the possibility of a permanent removal, if we feel that it is necessary.

Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding. My intent was not to say that you have to get a therapist immediately, and that there are no other options, but rather to explain that if you need help, go somewhere where they can actually give it to you. There are also plenty of online support communities, built around the concept of anonymity, that are made specifically for the purpose of having a place to vent, when needed, as long as you are careful. Many of these communities often have very strict rules about sharing personally identifiable information, for the safety of everyone involved. Those are the places to be discussing your issues if you genuinely cannot find help in real life. Minecraft is not the place to be doing so; it was created for enjoyment, not as a place to vent about extremely personal issues.

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This is exactly the problem. You are too open when it comes to personally identifiable information, often leading to issues between yourself and other players, when the wrong people get their hands on the information. You cannot expect to simply let the entire server into your personal life, without any sort of negative consequences. Again, while we are required to deal with this just as we would deal with any other situation involving harassment, rude comments, or inappropriate behavior, we must also hold the players themselves responsible for avoiding these situations in the first place. While we cannot regulate every single piece of information that is shared, nor is it our place to do so, we do have the right to step in when it starts to become a problem. I would consider this to be one of those situations, and believe that the rest of the staff team would agree with me as well.

I hope that this helped you realize how little information is actually necessary to share, when interacting with others online. Without even concerning ourselves with the fact that only some of this information is accurate, I believe that the fact that you were only able to come up with a few sentences, despite the fact that I have been a member of this community for multiple years, says quite a bit about this situation. If I were to do the same exercise with you, despite the fact that I imagine there are plenty of people that know significantly more about you than myself, I wouldn't be surprised if the response ended up being up there with some of the longer posts I've written. Almost none of the information you have been publicly sharing with others on the server is necessary, nor does doing so help avoid arguments in any way; it just perpetuates the endless cycle of sharing personally identifiable/private information, it getting sent to others, and then leading to very heated discussions and/or insults being thrown around.



Please take this time to seriously rethink how you wish to act when you rejoin the server. We will no longer tolerate this sort of behavior from you, and infractions will increase in severity over time. We never want to exclude certain users from this server; however, if we feel that it is in the best interest of the community, and that your consistently inappropriate behavior is not going to significantly change, that is something that all of us are prepared to do. The team will be paying very close attention to your behavior after rejoining the server, and it will be expected that you are not to violate any of the server rules, or repeat the following behaviors:

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  • Making any sort of suicidal comments
  • Discussing self-harm
  • Insulting others, regardless of what they may have done to you; gather evidence, send it to a staff member, and it will be dealt with.
  • Altering evidence in an attempt to get other players in trouble
  • Making users feel uncomfortable in any way, with inappropriate discussions

I genuinely hope that you are able to prove your changed behavior after rejoining the server, Trin. Again, our goal is not to personally attack you, make you feel that your personal issues are insignificant, or that you are not able to trust anyone here, but rather to stress that this is not the place to be discussing your issues; talk to someone that can actually help, or try to look for a reputable community created specifically for that purpose. With that being said, we will not hesitate to further infract you if you are not able to abide by the server rules, and we feel that you no longer belong in this community.


I would also like to apologize for the extremely delayed responses. I felt that it was better to spend a few days ensuring that my response were thorough and explained the situation in it's entirety, when I had time, rather than replying with quick, low-effort responses that would not be very helpful if your goal is to understand what you did wrong, and how to avoid future punishments. Please take the rest of the time to reconsider your actions and think about what kind of person you want to be, after coming back. Feel free to send a private message to any staff member if you have any further questions regarding our expectations.
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Your ban appeal has been denied.
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