I see your pov. I'm going to keep my thread open for others to see. I will let the staff know if I choose to close the thread. Id love to hear what Leeeroieee thinks about the suggestion. until then I'm sticking out my side.

 

I’m sorry but I agree with bard the lottery has become a joke, the people with 10 alts can crack on as far as I’m concerned because I think it will get to the point that the only people entering will be the alts because it’s a waste of time, but I seriously think this server has bigger problems than the lottery, ie changing the tick rate makes me not want to play this game

 

no support

im one of the alt users

 

I don't think the issue is that players buying more than one ticket get an unfair advantage, because as iako pointed out, they don't really have an advantage, since their chances of winning are proportional to the amount of money they contributed to the pot, but rather that when players use a lot of alts to bypass the two-ticket limit per player, a small number of players controlling a large number of bots end up dominating the lottery, reducing the chances of regular players winning.

The fact that the plugin announces it when players buy tickets, making it painfully obvious that a majority of participants are automated bots, creates the appearance of unfairness and discourages regular players from participating because they feel the odds are unfairly stacked against them.

Maybe some of the players who use bots to play the lottery can help me understand why they do it. Is the limit of two tickets per player too low? Would it help if the rounds were shortened? Or if the stakes were higher? Maybe there are changes we can make that would make the game more rewarding and enjoyable without having players resort to using bots.

 

I would agree with a solution like this rather than completely eradicating the problem. Id love to hear from m0gliEz and iako now that you've had your 2 cents inputted.

 

Having more than 2 tickets might not change, the bots will still buy the maximum number of tickets.

Having rounds shorter might cause issues. (maybe 45 minutes?)

 

I don't understand how shortening the rounds by 15 minutes or increasing the ticket limit will stop people using alts??

 

Bard, as the person making this suggestion, what do you propose as a solution?

Keep in mind that server gameplay suggestions should be specific and that proposed solutions should be achievable using technical means such as a new or modified server-side plugin.

If this is just a general discussion and you haven't identified a specific technical solution, I can move this thread to the discussion section so you can continue it there, and you can submit a suggestion when you believe you have a technical solution that might work.

 

I think that if more than 1 account has the same IP as another, all the accounts with the IP will have the exact same chance to win as if they were counted as a single account altogether
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If able to be done, there could be a max of 2

 

I'm pretty sure the limit was set so no one will waste all their money on the lottery and perhaps quit because they are broke. Using alts is the players choice and gives no advantage whatsoever. Sure, the alts may win more times than other players but the small amount of times the alts lose, a lot of money is lost.
No Support.
EDIT:
Maybe remove the lottery altogether?

 

What if the alts aren't using the same IP?

 

you're all thinking far too logically.
When playing the lottery, the person with many accounts does not earn or lose more money compared to him playing with one account. He is still bound by the rules of chance.

However, one player with many accounts reduces the chances of other people winning. While there is a 50% chance of winning when 1-1, in a 1-1 where person 2 has 9 alts (1-10) there's a 10% chance of winning. As said of course purely mathematically speaking it is irrelevant, since if the one person wins he will win proportionally more.
Watching one or a few people win the lottery over and over again though is demotivating and makes people less likely to play, since the chance of them winning is significantly reduced (even though they earn proportionally more when they do win).

It's a psychological effect which isn't based on mathematical logic. It reduces entertainment value when playing, and even severely the previously logical mathematics, now giving mathematical favor to the person with many accounts. Because this server is based on general entertainment more than the purely the acquisition of money, limiting the amount of alternate accounts in the lottery makes sense.
Support.
Leeeroieee

 

If the bots arent using the same IP, they're breaking the rules by bypassing the feature with a VPN and can be simply kicked by a staff member if they're SURE it's a bot. My knowledge of how that crazy stuff works is really limited. There are probably better alternatives but that's all I got for now. Maybe a /lot (temp)ban can be implemented.

 

It's very hard for staff to make sure is someone is a bot, except if they have store shop or mall in their name, and not even then! I mean, anyone can be named MinecrafterLover2k19 and have a 5x5 cobblestone base with 1 chest and not be an alt! People will always find ways to bypass stuff, but I really liked the /lot ban idea

 

I believe 1 or 2 should be enough

 

M0gliez pretty much wins it 75% of the time anyway, he’s the reason I don’t play it, I’d be quite happy for him to pick my lottery numbers tbh

 

Not true. The lottery is completely random, but the fact that he participates in most lotteries give him higher chances of winning

 

People are always salty about something, if there is 1 player with multiple accounts buying tickets and nobody else, well obviously they will win. I think I've seen a post about the lottery before and on that post I said this:
If you were to win 5000 instead of 1200 from lottery, would it still be a problem when people buy tickets with their alts?
I don't autobuy tickets myself atm, but when I do buy tickets and have both my accounts on why not use them? I'm pretty sure I lose more money than I win when using multiple accounts..

 

Before I started using a mod to autobuy tickets, there were plenty of others who did, and who also won many times in a row using their alts; (you know who you are). However, when I began doing the same thing and started winning, I killed it. I can't explain why I would get "lucky" but I did, and it obviously upset some individuals for quite some time.

The suggestions for restrictions are silly, there will always be ways to automate, even with all the limitations you could possibly think of.

On the economy server, the skyblock mod didn't work, so nobody could /autobuy tickets on there and that also upset some individuals. I could however, autobuy them because I had already modified the mod and because nobody else could, I maintained the winning steak even more. So in spite of that, I've just released the "Economy Edition" of the mod Here.

Have fun!

 

No support. People have paid for those alts and it's their own money they use to buy a ticket. It's only fair to let them use the accounts they've paid for.