What do you think about rank discrimination?

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What do you think about rank discrimination?

  1. It's unfair and the player should be punished if done.

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  2. It's fair and the player should be allowed to.

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  3. No preference.

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  1. Jarl-Penguin
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    I just wanted to know what you guys think about rank discrimination, and whether it should be acted upon.
     
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  2. Krissy
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    Discriminated how?
    Because simply having an attitude like "donors are better" or not buying from non donors are really bad attitudes to hold but cannot always be effectively proven until the person explicitly says it.
     
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    Like ignoring non-donors, saying you hate them, just being more rude to them in general.
     
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    This annoys me a lot. I haven't ever experienced it however I do see it rather often. For example, the donors will not do hand to hand trades with non-donors, only with donors. I can understand that some people scam but it isn't just non-donors that scam. That is technically prejudice to presume that all non-donors are scammers. I don't think it would be a great idea to punish it as there would be false accusations etc and it would be difficult but yeah I hate it.
     
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    Ignoring anyone isn’t a punishable offence.
    Saying that you hate non donors may come under disrespect rule and being rude towards others also is usually punished. So I think most of the discrimination can be handled under the other rules of the server. But in general we should encourage people to not see players by their rank, but their attitude and behaviour
     
  6. GAMER1232012
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    I've seen it happen countless times. There are many nasty people on Skyblock, and if you punished them all for being themselves the server would lose quite a few players.

    No matter where you go, there will always be people who look down on you for one reason or another. Skyblock is no different.

    Rank discrimination is an issue, but it's not one that can be solved in any way I can think of. The truth is, people have a right to pick and choose who they buy things from, who they interact with, and how they conduct themselves. If you change the rules to prevent then from doing this, you'd clearly be favoring one group over the other.

    Also, rank discrimination isn't a one sided issue. Some non donors regularly insult donors for 'wasting money on a stupid game', in the same spirit as a donor might look down on non donors for not being a donor.

    TLDR:I think rank discrimination is one of those problems that just has to be left alone. It should not be punished because the criteria for punishment is so hard to decide.
     
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    I believe that I can speak very well about this topic for a number of reasons. I have seen the evolution and the change of the server and how the community has treated non-donors. I will speak about my opinion on 'rank discrimination':

    This has been a thing that has been discussed and talked about on Skyblock often before. Non-donors and their influence on the server and the way in which they are treated on the server as well. I can tell you all for a fact that today's 'rank discrimination' is no where near what it used to be. Today there are non-donors that talk in the chat and have an actual influence on the server where they have a say and are listened to by donors and often trade with donors and are given help and advice. Non-donors today are an integral part of the server and are widely accepted by the community. Whenever I see a non-donor come online and type something in the chat along the lines of "Hey" or "I'm back" or any other greeting, I always see at least one welcoming response. Back when I used to play constantly (2013-2015), non-donors were always completely ignored and given no regard. Non-donors would ask questions about the server and if there were no moderators online, their questions would often go unanswered. Non-donors would never be traded with and non-donors would never be welcomed onto the server when they said "Hello" in the chat like donors were.

    Another thing I would like to say is that to my knowledge, there have only been a couple non-donors that have become moderators. Make of this what you will but it is definitely a thing to think about because often, the donors are the ones that stand out more to the rest of the community rather than a non-donor when talking in chat and providing assistance to the rest of the community.

    All in all, I do think that the 'rank discrimination' is still a thing on the server and that donors have always had some sort of preference, however this discrimination is not as prevalent as it used to be. Sorry if some of the stuff is a little wishy-washy, I did write this in a hurry because I have other things to attend to and I did not have time to look my writing over, but I hope this gives everyone a little more insight on 'rank discrimination'
     
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    lol, i dont think this thread should still be open.
     
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    I don't think it should be punishable unless it's a staff member being discriminatory against certain ranks in terms of punishment and the treatment of players. It can fall under disrespect in some cases, but this has been a somewhat issue since ranks came about and I guess it happens everywhere, on every server and even in real life.

    I always try to greet everyone with friendliness and I do try to empathise what it's like. So yeah, I like to make sure any person is welcomed with respect. Unfortunately, this can't be said for everyone on the server and in my opinion, it's unlikely that it will change anytime soon.
     
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    Since when did we have rank discrimination? As far as I've seen and experienced since ranks were first introduced, we haven't had any sort of rank discrimination.

    If it's because one's a D250 and other is a non donor, then that, to me, sounds stupid. Most poeple can't afford to purchase donor due to financial reasons.
     
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    The only case I've really seen it is in trading. Donors usually expect non-donors to trade first in drop trades, because it is assumed (MOSTLY correctly) that non-donors are a higher risk for scamming, because they're not as invested in the server and have less to lose if they're banned. Other than that, we treat Laini poorly and treat everyone else equally.
     
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    Tho I've seen a few donors discriminating some few non donors yesterday and it really annoyed me so I often stand up to the non donors and to let them feel better as I know what's the feeling of being descriminated back in 2012-2014 when I wasn't a donor I sometimes used to get discriminated.
    That's so true, also same thing for /trust where as players prefer to trust donors over non donors but the thing is it isn't about the rank, it is about if you really could trust them with your island and stuff.
     
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    Yeah... all of you guys are right.
    The only time I get annoyed is when donors brag about their ranks.
     
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    Being a donor doesn’t make you superior or more trustworthy, it just means you probably had a bit of money to spend and used it to buy a rank. Most high donors probably look more committed to the server, but some of them still break rules too.
    Rank discrimination is stupid, and although I don’t see it happen too often, I’m sure to give the player doing it a good warning.
     
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    discrimination? I can see how people trust more people with ranks because they are actually on the server to play.
     
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    Yeah I have noticed that non donor's usually get ignored when trying to get help with something. Who knows what they might be going through, or they might not be able to afford the donor. You never know. I've ran into donor's that have tried to scam me before (some successful) People do usually trust donors more because they think that just because your a higher rank means you your 100% not gonna scam. I mean its not like you earn donor ranks. You literally just buy them (you might earn them by doing jobs in real life though). And last time I checked theres no requirements except from payment methods to buy a donor rank. I feel like no matter how rich or poor we are. we should all treat each other equally.
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    Burn the greenbeans
     
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    If you cant afford a rank that's fine. No one is making you buy 50 bucks for a colored name that floats over your head and a colored name in chat. What matters is that if you follow the rules and be a great person.

    I got skynight because I got it as a gift but I didn't buy a single rank from the shop. Yet I'm a great person who follows the rules. That's what matters the most :p
     
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    Yeah, f*** you for not paying $400.
     
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    You actually can't get d400 anymore. Max is 250
     
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