Mods always go straight to the conclusion and don’t think about any situation thoroughly.

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  1. Gamzee24
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    Do you agree or disagree with the title? Because from most of my experiences, mods don’t think about a situation thoroughly.
    Need an example? Don’t worry, I got your back.

    Example: say there’s 2 friends and one of the friends is joking around with his friend and he tells him to shut up idiot and the other friend is okay with that. The mod might just straight up take initiative and may kick the player. Of course they may issue a warning beforehand but you know, they don’t know about the situation entirely and maybe they don’t ask questions so that they can but that’s okay with me.

    I just want to know if you guys agree or disagree with title and staff members, don’t feel left out. Post your opinions as well. :)
     
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    You need to understand mods have to follow protocol. It's not a mods job to know if they are your friend or not. They are more worried that no one is being offended or hurt. Even so if they knew they were your friend, and kicked them it's still justified as disrespectful. As well as if they're not kicked this may set a bad example for new or impressional players. You should look at it from the moderators perspective. They're just doing their job.
     
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    The example is not my example. It didn’t happen to me. It’s just something I’ve kept over the years when I always see mods jump straight to conclusions.

    Evux your opinion? It’s okay, I want to hear what everyone has to say. :)
     
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    You made this thread cause I told you to stop joking around on a status about someone’s pet dying. When is that ever an appropriate thing to do? It doesn’t matter if it’s a joke, it’s extremely disrespectful and outright hurtful.
    It’s not the fault of the staff, you need to take responsibility for your own actions.

    Lycel
     
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    Although it may seem biased from this point of view, I fully disagree. This server has rules, you fail to comply with the rules, you get punished. If you’re “joking” about it, does it suddenly make it ok now? Of course not, you still did it, and by that joke, who knows, you might have offended another player. Moreover, there is private message which some staff don’t moderate, so why not do it there?

    It may seem like we jump to conclusions, but we’re just doing our job and it’s not our fault that a joke that you guys have made have broken our rules. Especially as well known player, you should know the rules by now. We don’t need to ask questions about a situation if it clearly breaks the rules. There isn’t a need to create this thread calling out the staff, when we do a lot for the server and we keep it safe from spammers, advertisers and furthermore. :)
     
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    Most of what there is to say has already been said.
    Of course we consider context. That's... our job. If we just kicked someone every time they called another person an idiot, we'd just have a plugin to do that. Say, someone calls someone else a rude name. We'd have to (and typically do) consider:
    - Is that intentional
    - Is that malicious
    - Has that offended someone
    - Are they a repeat offender (or have a history of intentionally being malicious)
    etc.
    So, if it ticked none of the categories, we might warn them, because we don't encourage that behaviour in any form. The more boxes it ticks, the higher the punishment. I'm sorry if you're salty about a mod jumping to conclusions, but they're probably not. They're probably giving you the lowest form of punishment because regardless of context, the action is against the rules, or they're giving you a higher punishment they're considering a context which you don't know about. Some people don't understand everyone's viewpoints in a situation. That's fine. This doesn't, however, give you the right to make a malicious and generalised statement about an action that you likely don't have a full perspective of.

    What would it look like if a moderator made a thread titled "Players always go straight to breaking the rules and don't think thoroughly about what's right", then enter "Because from most of my experiences, players don’t think about a situation thoroughly." I could even list several hundred players where this was the case, linking to logs and ban appeals (if I wanted to put in that much effort). That doesn't make it right to make generalisations regarding a group.
     
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    No that’s actually NOT the reason why I created this thread thank you very much.
     
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    Kyrxu lmao why the disagree? I’m telling the truth.
     
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    I'll make this short.
    Staff do jump to conclusions. So do players. Thread answered, everyone does it because we are humans and don't always think things through. But a lot of the time, where staff have made a mistake, it does get rectified when handled in a mature and respectful way.

    A punishment is given out when something was done that was against the rules. Jokes that are disrespectful towards someone else are open to punishment.

    I don't see the point in complaining about this. Just use common sense. There are 10 year olds who can read our rules and follow them and not get any warnings and bans so obviously it isn't very difficult to comply with them when younger players can.

    Just another thread that won't change a thing
     
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    I was simply just replying to your "example".
     
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    I’m not complaining, I just started an open discussion and asked wether people agree or disagree on it.
     
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    But is it right to target a certain group when we’re just trying to help people and keep the server from harm?
     
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    I just realized that my post didn’t go through.

    I mean like what Krissy said, everyone jumps to conclusions but I think that it’s bad when staff does it. Then again I also agree with Lycel.
     
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    Well to the staff it might not seem like it because it is chat and not real life talking.
     
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    Exactly. I just wish staff would think about what is actually happening and I believe that they should get more info from the player who is messing around with their friend. They (the mods) should ask if those two are friends or if they know each other. If they don’t, then obviously some action should be taken (aka a kick or a mute) and if they do, then a warning should be distributed and they should be told to not mess with anyone even if they are their best friend. Arythix Lycel Kyrxu
     
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    Why tag me? Staff aren’t supposed to be going around asking who is who’s best friend. If you want to say something rude to your friend, do it in a pm so that we can’t see it! We aren’t here to pick up on friendships, chat moves too quickly to spend five minutes considering a warning. It’s only a warning anyway.
     
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    Do it in a pm and you can’t see it. That’s funny. Good one.
     
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    I don’t choose to have socialspy on. Chat is busy enough as it is. Insult eachother in a PM for all I care, if it’s a joke, I really really don’t care. If they’re offended and report it, yeah you’ll get punished. It’s the way the rules work, sorry.
     
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    Oh I didn’t say that example from my own situation. It’s just a made up situation.
     
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    If you don’t want to be nice to your friends you can go to it in discord PM. No one will see it and you won’t get interacted (if it doesn’t offend the other person). I don’t see why it’s necessary to do that on the Skyblock server because we have a policy that doesn’t tolerate disrespect of any sort.
     
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