Locked Island Protection Levels

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  1. Krissy
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    Krissy Stray Kids everywhere all around the world Administrator Discord Administrator Premium Premium

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    I am no stranger to having a very strong opinion on changes made and I am finding a lot of them include adding toggles and things to settings. The more these settings are added, the more we can fine tune our islands but that comes at a cost.
    It can be difficult to remember these settings, know exactly what they do or even to keep track of. Even worse for new and younger players.

    Also a problem area I find is the new tweaks to /lock protection. The obvious answer has been to add these tweaks and toggles to settings but again... my point above.
    Not only this, but the fact some changes are a little strict and make it frustrating to navigate the map.

    So these are two of my suggestions to better help new players and navigate /settings since new toggles get added and changed.

    Setting Presets
    Now what this idea entails is taking common island use cases to create presets that users can select to change the required settings without the complicated settings menu. For example a normal preset may be the default. There might be presets for casinos, shops, public grinders, hide and seek, extra protected, pvp, personal farms and other popular uses.
    This will take a bit of community feedback to get good presets but at the end of the day new players can easily select a group of settings and then further customise it when needed.

    /lock Protection level
    So with the new /lock island behaviour changes it seems that it does benefit players but also is not changeable at all. Perhaps players want to lock their islands but allow non trusted people to come back using /homes. Maybe they want people to teleport others to their alts locked island. Maybe they want to use their main to teleport users to their alts island. Maybe players don't want trusted people to be able to come back at all using /homes or /back. These can be added to settings but creates more toggles and more confusion.

    Instead lets consolidate these into the skyblock menu to create levels of /lock protection.

    The first is basic. Basic is how it was before the changes. All players can return to the locked island with /back or /homes and all players can teleport others.

    Medium protection can allow all players to return to the locked island via homes and /back but only trusted people/coop/owner can teleport others

    High protection is what the settings are now

    Extreme protection or complete lock allows only coops and island owners to teleport others and use /homes and /back to return to the island.

    This is a simple way that you can give users more customization and consolidate settings that people want.
     
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    Support. I really like the idea of presets, and I think it would be useful to players who aren't familiar with the different island options, and what they do. I also like the idea of adding different protection levels. The new changes to locked islands are kind of annoying, and I think having different protection levels would be really cool.
     
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    Hi Krissy, this is a great idea, but unfortunately all of our island settings are enable/disable toggles and they start out as disabled by default, which is the most secure setting for most players. Most of the settings control what non-trusted players can do on your island. But some settings, such as mob spawning, don't apply to player actions, so they apply to the island itself rather than visitors. Changing the settings from simple true/false values to a list of possible options would require a major redesign of the plugin and isn't really something we can accommodate at this point.

    In the case of the teleportation settings for locked islands, rather than creating separate island settings to address the problem you've pointed out, what if we made it more granular? For example, an island blacklist and whitelist that would let you do /bl add MyArchnemesis to apply locked island restrictions to that player even when the island's not locked, and /wl add MySuperSecretAlt to never apply locked island restrictions to that player even if the island is locked. There could also be /bl remove playername to remove someone from a blacklist, /bl list to show who you've blacklisted, and /bl reset to clear your blacklist and the same for /wl.

    This is very likely something we could do and it wouldn't require a redesign of how island settings work. Do you think something like this might solve the issues you're seeing with how locked islands are protected?
     
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    I would support this add-on. Would there be like /ignore list for /bl and /wl to show who is on each list?
     
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    Yes, we could let you list who you've whitelisted and blacklisted, and let you add and remove players from each list, or clear either list in one shot.
     
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    So are you saying it is possible to create exceptions for individuals? A whitelist/blacklist would work well to make it easier for users especially for those with alts.
    I'd get behind that. I feel adding more toggles leads to confusion as the list grows.

    I know a lot of people want some kind of blacklist for /visit as well which would essentially stop certain players from using visit when the island is open. At least in this case it might stop the behaviours that cause this without necessarily blocking them from /visit
     
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    Yes, I believe I could implement something like that.
     
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    Sounds nice :)
     
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    Support to the bl and wl idea as when I lock my island for example to hide something for some game people usually visit my neighbours islands to get into my locked island, with blacklist being added I can make them not be able to visit my island and when I am done I would remove the blacklist off them
     
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