Fact: Vote Crates Suck. (And How To Fix That)

Discussion in 'Server Gameplay Suggestions Archive' started by LegoCollecter14, Mar 15, 2018.

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  2. Step 2

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  3. Step 3

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  4. Step 4/5

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  1. DietPepsi22
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    Big Support, the crates take way to long to open and 60% of the time you win cobble. YAY;)
     
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    Yes. Cooble is my main thing too. CloudCorp Im not saying make the crates op I just think they should be alot less.. um, whatever the opposite of op is.
     
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    Support. I am a greenie and I think that cobble is way to common. I have shulker boxes full of cobble from crates and I feel that the only people it would hurt if it was decreased would be people that have just joined and go to use them. I suggest that instead of getting disguises from the crates you could get a disguise crate key, that way donors that don't need them could sell them or greenies that get them can just open them. Also, I feel like common crates are pointless, they are basically voter crates.
     
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    Tks for the support, but i already have the disguise crate thing suggested. =P
     
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    No problem, I just wanted to support that
     
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    I agree with all but the disguise issue. I think it is as simple as making it so that once you get a disguise, you can't get it again. Basically no duplicates.
     
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    You've got some really great ideas. support for all the steps.
     
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    Tks for the support.
    But they aren't ALL mine. I fleshed some out a bit, but this is mostly a collection of good stuff I found around suggestions.
     
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    Just a check in.
    Anyone got any other ideas?

    Not A Bump Lol.
     
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    I get were your coming from, but the point of crates is to get the basics. To start you off, the point of the gamemode is to farm and trade. It isn't meant to make you rich. So I just can't ever see most of it getting introduced, I can see cobble being slightly less common, and no wheel whilst claiming. But the rest in my opinion are kinda useless and if they did get introduced I would probably quit because its going against the fundamentals of the gamemode
     
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    But I'm not asking for anything to be added?
     
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    Your asking for the crate system to be completely changed making rare and creative items obtainable by the all of the player base. Were it is only currently available to a small percent for a reason.
     
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    So you want the game to be less fair? What?
    Also everything is obtainable.
    You can buy keys, disguises are already in the crates...
    The legendary keys aren't to be made at all common or easy to get under this. There would be a 1 in a million chance anyone would get one voting. Its currently 0
     
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    It is less fair to the players who donate to the server, and get have the server owners make it worthless. How about the fact if it is 1/1000000 what's the point of adding it, in the life of the server only like 1person will ever get one. And only one crate (available without purchasing) has the chicken disguise (I need double check this) this is a only useful to a non donor and it is kina nice that the server owners are giving them an ability. Again the crates are only meant to get the player started. Unlike the legendary crate, which is to give the player a likely chance of getting a rare/ unobtainable item (make them rich) so yeh, most of your ideas are in the end useless, if you eg disguise crate if only one disguise is in it, cuz the rest are donation perks. Or making rare items easier obtainable the crates have win percentages so the rest will get beefed, causing the likely hood of getting grass /diamonds or a rare crate key increasing. And it is once again only meant as a basic starter/helper tool
     
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    A) Its been done before and there are 3 different votes and several hundred players so it wouldn't be only 1 player who gets it. There would be no reason to make it worthless. People still buy grass/ diamonds on the server shop and those are easily obtainable.
    B) I never mentioned increasing the amount of rares, grass obtainable, where the heck are you even getting that.
    C) Read the reasons and full suggestions. Krissy had some good ideas for improving the disguise crate. And yeah its only the chicken and thats a problem. Donors , who you seem to really care about, are getting pissed because they keep getting that same thing over and over again. This would at least let people chose whether to use or sell that chance for a new disguise

    I really just can't understand what your logic is here..
     
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    it is legit the slowest thing ever
     
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    Say If is approx 200 active players

    200x3=600 votes a day
    1,000,000 ÷600 =1666.66667 days
    = about 1 player evey 4 and a bit years
    So on average it is going to be extremely unlikely anyone would ever get one. Making it kina pointless. And yes I do care about donors, after all we are the reason the server is still running. We pay, so we should be rewarded. The pet crate I would be able to eventually maybe live with, but yet again taking donor perks, potentially leaving themselves to chargebacks & fines (Paypal fines them every time someone charges back). I stand by my belief crates are only meant to have a slim chance of getting anything good, as they are designed to give new, and newish players the tools to get started. And integrating maj and voteifier would be nice, but in my opinion is extremely low priority, as they are bigger issues (tps lag) and also would require a lot of modification to the ma j plugin, as it is designed to prevent any items from getting in /out of the arena to prevent cheating. And the lotto wheel is nice, a big laggy but personally I have never had a problem with it... My logic if perfectly fine btw... Its called common sense
     
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    CloudCorp Not once did I say we should take away donor perks... And itn freakn disguises anyway, not one person would chargeback over those.
    You wouldn't have to do much to the ma j plugin. Think about it, it already adds stuff to your inv when you leave, simply add the keys and grass from a vp into that list of loot.
     
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    I am saying people are getting pissed off, and making disguises to greenies, could push people over. And yes it would require work as the VP plugin is set up to put it dirrecly into the players inventory. So you would have to complely reconfigure the way the rewards are claimed. Cuz it goes into ma j and won't come back out. The loot list, might work highly unlikely because then you would have to set up the vote party plugin, to see if each individual player is in the arena, and get it then tell the arena to add a random number of grass and keys to the loot list. And from prior knowledge I highly doubt it already has these features. Correct me if I am wrong tho
     
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    Support for all except 3. It's a bit ridiculous if loads of people have guardian spawners without paying. They are made to be prizes that are quite rare
     
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