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    gay
    adjective
    1. 1.
      (of a person, especially a man) homosexual.

    2. 2.
      dated
      light-hearted and carefree.
    I got 2 kicks and a 30 minute mute for saying the word gay. I understand that this was because I bypassed the chat filter but why is the word gay forbidden? As you can see from the definitions above, there is nothing wrong with this word. You are forbidden to say the word gay on skyblock which could connote the server as being homophobic. People cannot express their sexuality without being penalised. The word homo is also forbidden, this is a greek word and means "same" hence homosexual. I said this in chat and got kicked. I believe that players should be able to say these 2 words without punishment. Misuse of the word on the other hand should be dealt with accordingly.
     
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    ya idk why gay is banned, so is lesbian, and any word containing the word sex, so it's like literally impossible to use any other word to talk about sexuality.
     
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    We don't make the rules, we only enforce them. I don't know why it's in the filter, but we have to kick if it's said.
     
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    I think the reason you got kicked was just for bypassing the filter. It's not up to the Mods when it comes to the filter but if you DO try to bypass it then it's their job to kick. But I do agree, I don't know why it's not allowed.
     
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    Gay and Lesbian are used to express sexuality just like the word straight is. Straight isn't filtered, so why should they be? Well it's because most people don't say "straight" along with an insult. However, a lot more people use "gay" in negative sentences. I get how the word can be censored. And if you just say "g a y" and bypass the filter or use it with negative slander, you should be punished along with the rules. However, if you say something like "I believe (Name of popular gay celeb/person) just came out, they're gay", you aren't using it negatively and shouldn't be kicked (In my view). Because Wotsit just did it to bypass, and not really to put input to a convo, I'd say that punishment was correct.
     
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    That's where the staff team varies on punishments. If the context of the situation was appropriate, I wouldn't punish.
     
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    I'm still sticking with neutral
     
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    lmao why do ppl even use gay as an insult it's not like it's offensive, like why would you get offended by "ur so gay" but not get offended by "ur so STRAIGHT"
    ok so anyway
    it shouldn't be in the filter
     
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    It's because of the society we live in. People connote the word gay with negativity and hate and it has seeped into peoples minds that being gay is not ok because of the previous discrimination gay people received.
     
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    Quite opinionated. There is nothing wrong with the word, however if you have read just a bit of the news you would understand the controversy and possible negativity. It's just not something for a minecraft community. So, Cyp censored it. And as far as the standards, we have the same base lines, but some let more slide than others. It's impossible to be completely all the same on punishments as issues and people vary.
     
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    It's censored for people not to offend others, e.g someone saying something bad about it or calling people that word all the time some people just find it offensive. I honestly don't punish for it but :')
     
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    If I did punish for it then I'd appear to be homophobic and I'm not.
     
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    This is one of those threads that tries to find a nuance in the rules and exploit it based on technicalities. Yes, "gay" can be used positively. But the word is used in a negative sense far more often than it is positively. No support.
     
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    I see what your saying but that is not the reason I created this thread. I created this thread because I was penalised for expressing my sexuality which is not ok. I do understand that the word is used in a negative sense more than positive and that is why I want it removed from the chat filter and a rule put in place stating that misuse of the word will lead to sanction. This will allow players to use the word in a positive sense not only on the server but in their everyday lives.
     
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    This reasoning's a bit different than what you emphasized in your original post. If you're expressing your sexuality in a benign manner, then yes, you shouldn't be kicked. I agree with that :p
     
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    This is a case of doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. The word was obviously filtered to reduce the amount of homophobia on the server in statements like 'you're so gay' or 'you can't place rails? That's gay'. These aren't really acceptable phrases. However by removing the word (and its synonyms) entirely, you're dissallowing a group of frequently stepped-on to identify. It is, even if accidentally, forcing people who might be gay to just not bring it up. 'But', you might say, 'sexuality isn't a conversation for a kid's server'. By that same logic, 'hetero' and 'straight' should be filtered too.
    By filtering a word that defines a culture, you create a barrier that says that culture isn't allowed. Is that what we want to the young people on our server to think...?

    An alternative solution: the word gay and homo are removed from the filter, but if the word is used in a homophobic or innapropriate context, the person is either kicked by an online moderator or reported.

    Sorry if I'm repeating what others have already said; I didn't have the time to read the comments.
     
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    If you're a mod kicking people for it you're doing your job. The rule is don't filter bypass and they're technically and are filter bypassing. And you're 100% not being homophobic for doing this you're just doing your job. And you shouldn't be blamed for being homophobic. Again CypriotMerks made this rule and made the filter block out the word "gay" so quit blaming mods and go take it to Cyp
    Changing to No support because it can be used to be mean and offensive to people
     
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    By reading this whole thread, I have devised a simple chart that represents when you should and shouldn't use "gay"

    When you can use "gay"
    • I can't believe that [insert random celebrity] came out as gay
    • I'm [insert name], I'm [insert age], gay, and I love life (or something like that)
    • When using "gay" as in "happy"
    • When quoting a line, such as "I'M GAY" -IdubbbzTV
    When NOT to use "gay"
    • This loser is so gay
    • Wow, that's the best building you can make, that's gay
     
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    What people don't understand, is that the word "gay" is not inherently offensive. People using homosexuality offensively is at the fault of those people, not at the fault of the LGBT community. There is no reason for the word "gay" to be censored because the word in itself is not offensive. The word can be used offensively, but that is not to excuse the fact that there are legitimate people who identify as LGBT and the fact that there are legitimate reasons to use those words.

    You can punish for being homophobic and uneducated, but those who are LGBT should not be affected by those who are homophobic and uneducated.
     
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    No support. We have a lot of small children on the server who should not know such word at all.
     

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