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  1. Thursday
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    Support 100%%%%%
     
  2. Lycel
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    This thread must be kept alive. Do not take off life support.
    I would still like to see the next round of nubs be trial moderators; at this point, the last round might've already been promoted to full, so that's no longer relevant. I don't know when the next round is going to happen, but I do hope they'll be T-nubs once more.

    Thoughts, everyone: Staff Managers now have the cyan tag that Trials used to have. I was thinking that a yellow tag is a colour yet to be used that might look okay.
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    (the colour codes might not be perfect, I think I got smods wrong, but that's not my point.)
     
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    I remember a time when Trial Moderators weren't even a thing, I saw no issues without the rank and I don't see the reason for it's implementation in the first place. I felt adding a Trial position made you feel less of a moderator than others and that there was literally no reason for it. It was more to show that you are new.

    It's the same in the workplace, I feel like adding a "trainee" to the badge was making you a target and that there are people out there specifically trying to target you because of your inexperience within moderating.



    TL;DR - There is no reason & is a pointless position.
     
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    I got confused why it had been removed. Bringing it back would help the promoted staff get used to the commands and how being a staff member, is like, etc.
     
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    Well, there are reasons, even if you don't agree with them. I stated a few in the paragraph up front. It was also a result of mistrust in staff around that time; newer moderators were less trusted and were therefore given less power to potentially abuse.
    It is to show that you're new, but that's not a bad thing; putting people who were promoted yesterday in the same category as those promoted 2 years ago means that someone who contacts a newer mod won't know that the reason that they don't know the answer to a complex question is because they're new, not because the staff on Skyblock are incompetent.
     
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    Valid point. Although I don't see why a newer Moderator can't easily ask for advice or assistance from a more experienced Moderator if need be.

    I think everyone should have the chance to Moderate at their full potential and not be limited by the permissions they are given, if they abuse; demote them, It's simple. How are you supposed to Moderate properly and efficiently if you are limited by permissions because you're not "trusted". I still think Trial Moderators are a target and are thought of differently because they are new and in-experienced.
     
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    I've never seen a Trial moderator 'targetted'--the moderator worship mindset many players have extends to trial mods as well as the rest of the staff team. New moderators are treated like new moderators by the older ones for a good reason. They are new, and they have a lot to learn. As such, they might be treated differently. This would/should happen whether or not they have a specific rank saying that they're new.
    You're absolutely right about the lack of permissions being annoying, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing. My primary reasoning that I addressed in the main thread is that it creates something to work towards. The moderator team at the moment, despite being the same size it was two years ago, is quite inactive. The team is demotivated to stay on Skyblock due to a lack of goals to move towards. It's operant conditioning - moderators are rewarded with full permissions if they're active, and so they're more likely to be active in the future to gain even more permissions. If they never have to work to achieve full permissions, they're less likely to work to achieve super moderator permissions either.
     
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    Honestly, I loved seeing the T-nubs on the server learning how to moderate and getting along with the community. Support!
     
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    I understand your point, and in a way it would be nice to see the rank back, yet moderators now use a whole bunch of essential commands, and it's pointless removing them from the rank yet again.
    Precisely.
     
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    Not really, a lot of trial moderators were demoted in the past. Hence where "trial" comes from, to see what you can do with what you are given with. If you succeed, you will receive more permissions so you can do your job better than you did before. I don't like seeing new moderators put within the same category with people who are way more experienced. They should learn upon them, righttt ??

    I support, I'd like to see this rank back
     
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    I agree with this though too.
     
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    Wait this was removed? Really? Support
     
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    Still going to say no support.
    I'd like to emphasize that trial moderator was a rank that was supposed to last a few weeks to a month. Because it was a trial to ensure staff knew what they were doing.
    But as time went on, trial mods were just sitting in the rank even if they knew what they were doing and were good staff members. People like Bossgamer , MindSensation , Blyx and Weiss (just to name a few) all were ready for full mod but were kept in that rank so long.

    That doesn't help motivate them to become full mods. This puts them down. It isn't a nice feeling to know you are doing so well and yet you don't know if you will pass the trial stage.

    Being a full moderator straight up seems like a bad idea but it is fine. For the first month new staff are noted, mentored and helped. After that "trial" stage of full mod they moderate. It motivates them to work towards the super mod rank. The plan all along is to have people work towards things.
    Mods work towards super mod, super mods work towards manager. It is the same chain as before just with different ranks.

    Nothing terrible happened with mods being promoted straight to full mod.
     
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    The rank would've ideally been great if it was actually a "trial" position, but since it would just end up with moderators left in the rank forever after being far done with the "training" process... I honestly just like that it was removed.
     
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    Support We need trial moderators back
     
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    Trial mods were nice, but being a trial mod for months and months and then feeling forgotten about isn't a nice thing. If it was actually a proper trial, that'd be fine. It's the fact that it never was.
     
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    It was removed coz it was such an effort to promote mods to mod lol
     
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    People keep making the point (too many times to count at this point >_>) that they stayed Trial Mods and permless for too long. Yes, this is true. I know. I'm not proposing that we bring back T-Mods as they were. If you read what I wrote, you'd see that :p

    To make it clearer, I want:
    - Trial mods to only last 1 month, and either be promoted or demoted by the end of that period.
    - Staff Managers are in charge of the promotion from Trial Mod to Full.
     
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    I can agree on this. At least the trial is long enough and Staff Managers are doing something besides managing, etc.
     
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    Yep support for this ^^
     
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