Denied RocketOG forums ban appeal[Denied]

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  1. Sauce
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    The following is written by RocketOG, he attempted to create an appeal alt on two separate occasions with different emails and both attempts failed. The following is written by him:

    1. Server name (.net / .org ): Forums
    2. Forums name: RocketOG
    3. Did you read the rules ? Yes, not recently.
    4. Why do YOU think you were banned? Posting one Discord invite.
    5. Was this an incorrect ban? Partially.
    6. Were you ever banned before on forums? If so, what for? idk maybe rate abuse once
    7. Why do you think you should be unbanned? Well first id like to request someone other than emerald handle my appeal because I believe he is biased since I am friends with RobloxianRoblox who he has personally had many issues with in the past. Now as to why my ban should be lifted or shortened is because first of all the rules do not clearly define if a Discord invite is allowed or not. It says a link to a website or other minecraft server. Discord is not a website, it uses a web address as a bridge to the app but the web address itself is a screen that says "Joined this channel" or whatever, there is no function other than informing a user that the app has been launched and they have joined the channel. Also thirty days - a whole month, for one link that was used by nobody, isn't explicitly disallowed by the rules, and for something that does not detract from the player base or servers success is extreme. I would understand a week long ban since it is the first time this has happened, at one point he cited my history, my history of posting discord links? Or the one time I rate abused someone? Certainly not for my in-game offenses, those have nothing to do with anything forums related. uh I had a lot more stuff to say that I forgot but whatever ill add it later, also if you decline my request for an unbiased mod ill just appeal to emerald, don't lock or deny this smh
     
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    Firstly, Rocket cannot request another moderator to handle Rocket's appeal, I will handle it unless I request another moderator to deal with it. Setting that aside, Roblox and I haven't been friends for months, we aren't even friends now all we did was make up, and I'm confused why you even brought Roblox into this, he has nothing to do with the appeal/ban. Even if we did get in a no relationship, why would I even target Rocket for that, that is ridiculous. The rules say Do not post links, IP's, or anything directing to another server on the forums. The infraction guide says

    Advertising
    1 month ban - Perm ban

    The one month ban will only be set in place if the user is not a spam bot.

    Advertising is posting links, IP’s, and whatnot to external websites/servers. Do you have a link you are unsure about? Ask a staff member.


    Discord is considered a website, discord can be used on a browser so it makes it a website. Rocket could've asked a staff member about this if he was unsure. 1 month is not harsh for advertising, it is even in the rules.

    I am not sure if you know about this, but Rocket has been perm banned for rate abuse, he had 3 offenses, his 4th offense just happened. A fourth offense is a perm rate abuse, you can also make him appeal on this appeal about the rate abuse.

    My evidence of the rate abuse:
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    Rate abuse is the use of using ratings on a specified member, 3+, in under a short period of time. This all happened under an hour, which makes it rate abuse.


    Back to the advertising appeal, Rocket shouldn't have done it in the first place. Rocket has appealed before, and should re-read the rules, there should be no excuses of doing this, he knows the rules.

    I never brought up any of Rocket's in-game offenses, in-game and forums bans are totally separate.
     
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    Why?
    you can speak directly to him, I'm only saying what he tells me to say.
    Discord invite
    I did, they said it was fine as long as it wasn't for an MC server.
    but its for the same rating category, that was two dislikes and one optimistic, further more I actually went back and removed one of the dislikes which you can check because I did think it was excessive.

    so Im perm banned for rate abuse? I was never informed leading up to my fourth offense it would be perm someone should have told me.

    never, only appealed once in-game to Lem like two years ago for something else idk what it was
     
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    It's because the moderator that banned you has authority on the ban appeal, it wouldn't be right to give it to another staff member or a friend on the staff team

    A discord invite leads to a link

    It's in the rules, re-read them

    Rate abuse is 3 ratings in a shortened time period, it doesn't matter if they are different ratings, it would still be rate abuse. No one should've told you, it is in the rules, the fourth offense is a perm
     
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    I don't care who it is as long as they aren't biased which is 90% of the staff team, you can have someone like Kato or whoever idk who would be biased for me LOL

    which is literally a screen saying frats you join [x] channel

    I did

    Again, I removed one of the dislikes about thirty minutes after giving them, funny how you won't respond to that part
     
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    It doesn't matter, the ratings were still there, it is rate abuse.

    Your rate abuse permissions will be perm removed permanently. Do not appeal for them until 10/1, you need time to think about what you've done on forums, all the bad history you have, think it over.

    For the advertising ban, we can continue with that.

    Do not say anything about the rate permissions, that's over with, if you do I just will not respond, it's my final decision.
     
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    No the ratings go away if they are removed, part of the reason you are able to remove them as a forum user. It is not rate abuse.

    idc about my rate perms so what we need to do to appeal this ban
     
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    It is rate abuse, re-read the rules


    For advertising, tell me why you thought it was okay to do this. Even if you didn't think it was a discord link, you had the option to ask a staff member, it is clearly in the rules.

    I am done with your tricks, you need to owe up, confess what you did, and I need to see that you won't do this again.
     
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    First off as I've said at least once already I asked a mod, I think t-mod at the time if it was alright to post discord links and they said it should be fine, never actually needed to post a Discord link until the other day where I thought it would be cool to show people my channel. Thats pretty much why I thought I could lol, believe me its a hell of a lot more effort appealing then it is to just find a few people online to join my Discord lol.
     
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    What tmod?
     
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    idk its when a lot of the mods were changing their igns and nicks, might have had something to do with noodles? not sure lol
     
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    Hmm, this must've been a while back then. The rules were edited since trial mod rank has been removed.
     
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    ...
    when
     
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    Can we kinda get back to why I should be unbanned rather than who said what when
     
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    I would like to know who did it, yes, I did get a little bit off topic. If you do find out, I would love to know, thanks!

    Anyways, I'm going to think this over for a bit, discuss, then final decision. This might take a while, not over a week though.
     
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    Why will it take so long to think? Can't you like ask a few questions and decide?
     
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    Rocket would like to know the status of his appeal.
     
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    No status right now, I am still thinking.
     
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    Keep us posted.
     
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