Though I agree with this, for the points I mentioned in the main thread I think it's worth having the rank so that moderators have a motivation to remain as moderators for longer, meaning more experienced moderators. Not having that stage would make the whole moderator journey, or the one that I went through, not half as effective. Though yeah, it would be helpful if the trail stage of moderation was taken more seriously as you've suggested.

 

I'm not going to support this unless they're a Trial Moderator for a maximum of two months.

 

I can only qualify or entirely refute the existence of the Trial Moderator rank.

tl;dr: Read it all or don't debate with me.

 

support only if theres like a maximum time before they either get promoted or demoted, just because some people have been "trial" mod for over 6 months

 

Trial Mod was fine, except it wasn't exactly a trial. I believe Cyp should have to set out an exact time for people to prove themselves to be a full mod, or else they're demoted. That's what it should really be used for.

Other than that,

Support

 

Many people aren't addressing my initial point: They need the motivation to move up in the ranks. If moderators were perfect machines that once trained, did their jobs perfectly, this model (as well as the one we have now) might actually work. People, however, need motivation, competition and a goal in order to work hard. This is why so many 3-4 month-old full mods resign. If these people never had that trial period, the threat of losing their moderatorship or the threat of staying with no permissions for an extended period of time (though hopefully that wouldn't happen if the rank was re-introduced), it would result in mods that do not work hard enough in their initial weeks. So, yes, a shorter trial mod period which is more focused on assessment, but none at all would mean poorer moderators getting full permissions and having no motivation.

 

i think the trial period should be shortened and made more productive and lbr cyp probably forgets to promote people half the time

 

Support becsuse reasons above. Time limit should be added like above

 

I know which ones.

 

I agree, I don't think once you get accepted as moderator, you shouldn't just be plopped as a mod. I think it should be like before when you would get accepted, become a Trial, and get promoted a few months after.

Support!

 

support lol i was a clueless tmod and if it wasn't a rank i would be a even more clueless fmod

cough u 2 Blurted

 

I meant to address that but forgot to. My point there would be that the moderators shouldn't NEED motivation to moderate. They should do it because they want to, and that, in my opinion, makes for a better moderator overall. However, you do make a good point and I would be more inclined to agree with having the TMod position if the conditions in my qualification were met.
Unfortunately, and as pessimistic as this sounds, the reality is that it won't ever happen. I was on trial for about 3 months (which is too long to begin with); imagine people on trial for longer than that! Maybe you don't even have to imagine; maybe you know yourself what it's like. I remember watching the only other TMod in my "cohort" get promoted to full mod a full two months earlier than me. "What did I do wrong?" I would continually ask myself. The fact of the matter is, I didn't. Cyp just forgot I existed. The point is, though, I began to lose faith in myself, and therefore, the effectiveness of my moderation began to decline.

Now, keep in mind, this happened...almost three years ago. From what I can tell, nothing has changed about that. If it hasn't changed in three years, it won't change, ever. Not unless a new in-game administrator is promoted, which also won't happen, because Crew has understandable trust issues. That's a whole 'nother topic to be discussed, however. I'm not sure what the role of the "Staff Manager" is, and I was unable to find an explanation of it anywhere on the forums, but I would guess that they just act as the "warden" to the mods and super mods, with no real influence over whether someone is promoted.
This post got a bit longer than I thought it would, so let me wrap it up. Rather, just let me restate my qualification: I will only support the existence of the TMod rank if the trial is kept to a maximum of 2 weeks and used to assess the abilities of the TMod(s) in question. Hey, maybe the "Staff Managers" could be the ones to do that!

 

Bump. I miss my little tnubs.

I acknowledge that the previous trial moderator system had flaws - people were kept with fewer perms for too long. However, with the new staff manager position, they could be in change of promoting trial moderators (not moderators in general - that would still be Cyp's job), and insure that they are all treated equally and removed from the team or promoted after a certain amount of time has elapsed.

 

stil no support yal

 

I support this. However, I think that in addition to a shortened, stricter trial period, the assessment should be clearly defined as well. The "he did good" thing seems a bit ambiguous to me.

 

YES Yes YES yESYYS SUPPOrT Pls let this happen oh my god I was like what's gonna happen now that you don't even have to trial because I noticed a lot of the trial mods that got mod straight away immediately resigned or are extremely inactive.

 

That's already in the thread

 

Oh oops

 

Support I did like to see it back!