Evolution/Creationism

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  1. Coastic
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    The thing is that you have to have faith no matter what you believe. Even the most atheistic people, who believe in the Big Bang, have (debatably) as much faith as those who believe that God created what we see today. There's scientific proof for both sides. As someone who believes that God created the universe, I'm not going to deny the things that are factual and scientifically proven, but you can't explain the origin of the universe using solely facts and zero faith. In the end, we will never have the answers to everything. There will always be missing blanks because when it comes down to it, we came from something. We didn't just appear from thin air, and that's why everything is called a "theory."
     
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    Are you neutral in this then?
     
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    No, I believe in Creationism and God. There's no point in explaining my complete point of view because you can't "scientifally prove" faith. I have a lot of reasons for not believing in the Big Bang, but I do believe in evolution to a certain extent.
     
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    Like a lot of people, how you explained it makes sense
     
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    As I stated, we as humans naturally want answers on everything, even when we as a race are not at that stage yet and don't know enough to even begin to answer such questions. However, we have advanced much further then we had when the bible was created. I think it's safe to say that a giant man in the sky created a 'son' who walks on water to tell us all about how a person higher above our own race who's in the sky is our leader and our creator is preposterous.

    This reminds me of an episode from The Simpsons when they all join a cult not knowing who their leader was, only that they new he was called "The Leader".

    And I respect your views, too. The years before when we started to slowly make scientific advancements and up until really the 1990's, the world has been riddled with fear of the unknown. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people still are but these days we have a lot more answers then we used to. Around the year 0 when Jesus was said born, everyone was scared of supernatural occurrences. Ghosts, monsters. They wanted answers. Disease spread fast. Poverty was common. Life expectancy was low. It's very easy at such a hard time to just imagine something good out of it, to believe you have the answers. As I said before and I'll say it again, us humans naturally want answers for everything, and if we don't have them, we make them up.

    Our modern day world is a lot more advanced then we used to be, it's time to start thinking differently with the facts we now have. But to not sound insensitive i'll stop there.
     
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    Maybe didn't read this carefully enough but are you saying you can't see why people believe in God?
     
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    I think their reasoning for it as in 'just have faith' is an old and outdated response for beliefs. These days we use evidence to explain ourselves. It's a modern time and after all these scientific advancements, evolution does not sound far fetched and entirely possible. (And a lot more likely then a big man in the sky who is apparently the answer to all our problems)
     
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    Oh ok I read it very quickly haha
     
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    Well it's a little hard when you say "them" like all believers give you the same explanation(s) when it's really not like that..
    Religion is a lot more than having faith for some but for some it's actually it, that can be enough for their own personal reason, a lot of believers believe in the greatness of the God, something that is so big that the human simply can't understand it, Islam for an example, "allahu akbar" (I am not using this in a offensive form what so ever) - means "God is bigger/greater" basically that god isn't the most mighty, but even mightier.
    This is just one of the many, many explanations as to why people believe in powers above humanity.
    And sure, the society and the human is in a stage where we want to know things with facts but that has always been the case if you really think about it and go back in the history.
    An explanation a lot of believers use no matter what religion is that they get comfort from believing due to the answers they get.
    This is, after all a belief and like someone said before, it's all about your own personal mind.
    Some people are not looking for concrete reasons because of their belief or because they simply do not think that there is more to add to the whole thing, some think the faith is what you go after and some think facts and proof is everything that matters.
    After all, facts doesn't have to be fact since we're not actually 100% sure of anything...
    Ouh ended with a mind f***
     
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    Facts aren't facts? 100% sure zebras have stripes.
    Anyways you're literally rephrasing everything I have said but adding in a "god is real". You can say your understanding of why people believe in god is just because they have faith but that doesn't excuse the fact that there is no solid scientific proof that there is a god. Yes, I agree, people believe in god because they are seeking comfort of having answers that people who don't believe haven't yet got... that doesn't make god real though. It's like me believing in Santa Claus when I was little, just like I'm sure you did. I found comfort in the fact that I knew if I was good I would get rewarded with a new toy... doesn't make Santa Claus real. It's time for humans to start excepting the fact that we don't know everything and we possibly never will.
     
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    There has been proof of such miracles that jesus has performed, unlike santa and his elves.
     
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    What - in the bible?
     
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    Where's the love for my homie Shrek?
     
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    That really just makes no sense now
     
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    Global warming is caused by over population.

    We need another holocaust. Where's my good man Adolf?
     
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    useless post/10

    just say what it is this is a damn minecraft forum who cares.
     
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    this is exactly why i didnt say what it was. a lot of people are so mean about everything, including religion.
     
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    so when exactly do I receive the luck of my prayers bc I'm pretty sure I prayed about 10 times the other day hoping I passed my math exam.
     
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    then dont post saying "hey theres this cool book, but I won't tell you"
     
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    But if you apply your logic to creationism you get the same result, God couldn't have just come out of nowhere or have been around "forever".

    Also this is slightly off topic but I'd like someone who believes in God to answer this: Why is your God real? There are hundreds of other religions around the world, some believing in multiple Gods some believing in only one, how did you decide that all the other religions were more false than your own? What a coincidence it is indeed that the religion you were brought up in is the one, true religion (unless you're a convert, which isn't common).
     
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