FORUMS: No deleting Negative Ratings

Discussion in 'Other/Uncategorized Suggestions Archive' started by xphstos37, Jan 8, 2017.

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  1. anna
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    I haven't deleted any negative ratings towards me yet, but I think we should still have the right to delete ratings given towards us if there's nothing to really be negative towards. But personally if I was rate abused with 10+ dislikes I don't think I really need to get another moderator to do it - yeah I can talk to other staff about it but I'm able to remove them once I get confirmation I can.

    Highly doubt any of us would abuse and remove a dislike because we simply don't want a bad rating. We'd always consult other staff if it was a rating we don't deserve.
     
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    Moderators shouldn't be removing any ratings on themselves, no matter if it's obvious abuse or not. This is to prevent threads like this and moderators being accused or blamed that they're on some sort of power trip. Other moderators may remove them if they so desire.

    I know a few moderators that delete their own negative ratings and I can't really do much besides shake my head and ponder how pathetic some people can really be.

    Some people don't understand that a rating may just be an opinion and if a moderator removes it without questioning it, then it's abuse. It's complicated and I tend to just ignore them unless it's obvious abuse -- even then, rating a lot of things isn't really abuse because you could actually 'like' what was said/done/or posted.
     
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    blaq but it's a staff decision!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    But are we taking anything away from you? This is purely giving something a second pair of eyes, which never hurts with anything in life.
    Also, this? This seems a bit rude to me as normally people like xphstos37 have actually read others threads where people such as you, Krissy say the exact same things on every thread and would expect this response and maybe do have an idea after reading many of your posts

    "Insert explanation of why you're wrong"

    *someone writes a long response*

    "complain why this doesn't work and say that the person who made the thread knows nothing"

    I've personally seem it on many of SirAgent 's threads, even if I don't agree with the threads.

    I'm not trying to start an arguement with you, I just simply think that you are being repetitive, and fairly rude with this comment.
     
  5. xphstos37
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    Sean, you just gained so much of my respect with this comment, thank you for not belittling the topic of this thread.
    Rates are so silly if you put everything into perspective. But I think it would be logical that mods would get more negatives than the average player, since they tend to post more often. If rate abuse by its definition is not happening, a mod should not be able to delete only the bad ones and always leave the good, as I'm sure none delete positive rates with the same frequency.
     
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    say what where who how huh?
     
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    I just used you as an example as I have read your suggestions that Krissy has responded to. One that's prominent in my mind is your one about mods needing a reason for a ban.
     
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    That's known as revenge rating. It is abuse. Report it.

    This is correct, it's already the status quo. Even if it were implemented "officially," nothing would happen, as everything you're suggesting already occurs.

    Sure, there might be one or two moderators that don't follow this. If they do abuse the whole "remove a rating" permission, report them. That's what would happen under the suggestion anyways.

    No support, it wouldn't really change the current system, and for almost every moderator it'd make a simple task into a pain staking one that doesn't need to be.

    I'm going to say it again, report moderators that do this. Thanks.
     
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    No one, at least no moderators, belittled the thread. You have to understand that each moderator is human and has varying opinions on things. A lot of the rules and guidelines that moderators adhere to were originally written by me. I tend to come off either more knowledgeable or less bias because I know how they work -- I know what I should and should not be doing.

    Krissy doesn't deserve all the flak she's getting for her posts because she's trying to defend the staff team. Her posts may be a little rude, but so are everyone's, especially on a topic people are enthusiastic about.

    I don't know about this one. We'll check the 'most negative rating' tab for reference on staff members. Notable Members | Skyblock Forums

    Cypriot is the highest staff member. Cypriot often makes threads with a "like if you agree, dislike if you don't" mentality and that has caused him to have an inflated like/dislike ratio. Cypriot has 10,243 likes compared to 171 dislikes. That is an exceptionally great ratio.


    I'm next on the list for obvious reasons. I'm a very harsh and blunt person when it comes down to most subjects. My ratio is 6,497 likes compared to 119 dislikes. Again, this is a decent ratio -- all things considering.

    And then there's Akrill, who has 3,362 likes and 112 dislikes.

    Out of 37 staff members, only three are on that list.

    Exactly. They delete the bad and leave the good and every moderator that has deleted their own rating sis guilty of this.

    I have an alt that I frequently use to rate moderators posts randomly. Most of them remove the ratings. This is how I know who abuses it and who doesn't. I'm not going to name names, simply because I don't want drama.

    I really have no point to make with most post, besides the middle one... oh well.
     
  10. xphstos37
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    Sam, I agree, low chance of anything changing as regards all mods following the same procedure and not deleting negatives if no rate abuse has taken place, but leave their positives. But it's worth a shot, and I'm glad we all got a chance to discuss our views here, and maybe the suggestion might be implemented some day, who knows.

    Not necessarily. That would mean you are only safe if you rated negatively, first, and is too open to interpretation.

    The simple task you are referring to here is a mod removing their own negative ratings without rate abuse, as no warning is sent. You contradicted your earlier statements such as
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    , as what they delete is not seen by anyone but themselves, the way things are now.

    I just wish all mods followed the same rules we do and didn't remove their own negatives. Plus, as a matter or probability, when someone has been here 3 years and has fewer negatives than someone who has been here for 6 months, yet has posted a thousand times more comments, it's easy to spot who cares about negatives and who doesn't. We can also learn from non-positive ratings, depending on the reasons the negatives were given.

    EDIT: Thanks, again, Sean. I appreciate your honesty and manner. I do believe, however, the numbers on that list would be higher and possibly more mods would be on it if they couldn't delete their own negatives.
     
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    wait...a mod reporting to another mod...?

    that just sounds really weird...

    its like saying if cypriot has an issue with his microwave he tells the server dev ._.
     
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    I assume this point is directed at me I was the one who made the post
    I personally just thought that the thread could've been responded to in a different manner than that of one with a rude tone.
    I can't argue with this as I agree with this.
    Amazing point, but after putting sentences explaining yourself and cyp you kinda left Akrill hanging lmao (You don't have to explain Akrill)
    good to know
     
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    If his microwave threw its own buttons away, then yes, he should. LOL
     
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    You should probably go to NASA if that happens.
     
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    mods stop being babies when u applied for mod u should've known the responsibilities and what not, you're gonna get negative ratings if you're mod no matter what, but that doesn't mean its alwayz rate abuse

    why u being so defensive mind, cuz u know its tru?? :^)
     
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    Akrill's a lot like me. I just didn't feel like explaining it twice. :p
     
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    blaq, would you know anything about this?
     
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    Server is ran by thoughtless 12-16 year olds that get triggered at any form of opinion that isn't theirs. Not much we can do.

    Sean you're amazing
     
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    I wanna rate abuse this some more agrees
     
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    I just gave a staff member a negative (unrelated to this thread of course) and this reminded me to check back and oh look it's already gone. No warning, no infraction, no notification that it was removed. And no, that person was not Exstatisfy.
     
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