support, of course.

 

support. i was banned once for no reason, when i was un-banned they said "oops, we thought you were a greifer"

 

Honestly, it's a part of the common sense rule. There is no reason we would ban without a reason; we wouldn't risk our poisition over something that's not even worth banning for. It obviously is still a rule just not in writing

If you could give me when that was and how it happened instead of saying it happened, I would be interested in learning more about what happened.

And the appeals: Most of those bans were actually one case.

 

The common sense rule was eliminated too.

I want this in writing so players can get proof when they ask for it.

 

Common sense is common for a reason. It doesn't have to be in writing

Let's say there was this evidence collected by player A to get player B banned. Player A and B talk to each other, have a discussion, but player B threatens to DDoS and DoX him if he gives the evidence away. Player A gives the evidence to the mods, and player B is banned.

If we show the evidence to player B, player A will be violated of his privacy. In order to keep these types of cases safe, we shouldn't be required to show proof every single time—just enough that makes us justified in banning them. What I'm saying is is that this isn't a court and shouldn't require physical evidence every single time. It's an online server with different applications and processes

 

AH HA!!!
Mods have been hiding the evidence all along!
They make us tricked into believing they know EVERYTHING but they don't!
This is all just a set-up by the mods to get more POWER!

 

Support

Mods definitely do need a reason to ban since they do not already.

Just kidding. If we did not ban without a reason, the specific moderator would've been reported by another moderator or player and would've gotten warned for their wrong action. Krissy

 

Is this not already implemented in the rules?

 

It is, some people just don't understand how this place works and/or are butthurt

 

sure, but this goes unsaid

 

I mean we already have reason to ban? I highly doubt any of us would risk our position just to ban someone we dislike or want banned lol.

 

If moderators banned without a reason, there'd be a staff report on them. They'd get in trouble and have their position at risk. Not many mods want to risk their position.

Mods don't ban without a reason, but sometimes the player doesn't deserve to talk it out. Mods deny appeals for certain reasons.

 

You're implying staff reports work.

They are instantly shut down. Only ones directly linked to Cyp go anywhere.

 

support Jxnaa Stel

 

I feel like the rules should still be in the rules section. Someone will get banned without reasoning and will report a staff member and the staff team will say "That isn't a rule." And then instantly decline it.

 

Every mod knows they cannot ban without a reason, it's common sense. I don't mind if it's written down, though.

All of those appeals you linked were from alternate accounts. They don't need to be shown proof when they're obviously alts. We provide proof to players who ask for it unless they are alternate forums accounts. If you're going to use something to back up your suggestion, I highly encourage you to use something that represents your suggestion better. There is no reason an alternate account of another player should be given proof that they're an alternate account because they know they are one. It's different if someone is banned for, let's say, scamming, and they ask for proof. In that situation, we will provide proof, since they could of been framed. However, alternate accounts cannot be framed.

 

Says someone who called the cops on me for something I didn't do, that wasn't illegal, and that your local police station would have no power over whatsoever regardless.
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This is a simple solution: add it to the rules.

There are obviously staff members who would use this as an excuse/loophole to ban without exact reason and say it's just "common sense," or "quite obvious" and punish based on assumptions. Proof is needed. It said (note how I used past tense, as it's no longer in the rules) so before, it shouldn't change now, of all times.

 

I don't think this is what he is saying, I think he is saying (regarding forums) that when you get banned, there is no ban message. All there is said is "rules violation". When you are banned, you can't read your inbox saying why you were banned.