Pay to win!!!!! >:(

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  1. CthuluDancing
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    I hate how pay to win this server is. I mean I'm donor 100 and I didn't get the email that shows the block configuration that wins me the game, or the powers that unlock the last bossfight. I didn't get the cheat codes that that let me ruin other players islands.....
    Oh wait those don't exist?
    Then what the hell are we paying to win?
     
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    You're donating to keep the server alive and keep on playing.
     
  3. CthuluDancing
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    I know man, this was supposed to be a joke to everyone complaining about this server being pay to win.

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  5. TimePlaysGames
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    Becoming rich as a non donor without any donor friends is reallllllly damn hard. Meanwhile, donate $400 and youre instantly rich no matter what. So in a sense it is pay to win.
     
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    pay 2 win
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    BAN EVERYONE NOW
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    !!!!~!!
    SUCH PAY 2 WIN
    WE MUST REMOVE DONOR!!!
    MAKE SKYBLOCK GREAT AGAIN
    MODS ARE 2 BIASDEE 4 ME!@!!
    PLS DEMOAT ALL MOADS!
     
  8. CthuluDancing
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    No its not seeing as how im not "winning" anything. As a side note the people who complain about our donors paying to won dont understand that this server wouldnt be half as capable without these donors contributions. Website, forum, player slots plugis hooks content; this all costs money amd donors are the reason cyp can afford to do these things.

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  9. TimePlaysGames
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    Yes obviously you cant 'win' skyblock, that isnt the point, its an expression. Its still semi pay to win.

    I never complained about it being pay to win, I just think its important to see the other side of the argument; I understand that the server needs donations to survive, but people have a reason to complain about it being pay to win. Again, I'm not complaining at all.
     
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    They actually don't have a reason to complain. It literally affects their own game play -0%. If you can name one way that my donation perks affect a non-donors gameplay other than "I get lots of stuff and he doesnt" then I will cede my point.

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    In the meantime here are some ways donor perks positively affect greenies.
    1. Cool builds on server
    2. Drop parties
    3. Events and competitions
    4. Supporting the server so we can have enough slots for greenies to even play.
    5. Epic shops and Server games
    6. Solid upper level player base with lots of knowledge and experience to pass on to greenies
    7. Able to god people's stuff

    See how annoying it is when people complain about pay to win even though the donors do so much for the greens both intentionally and unintentionally?
    If not for donor perks don't you realize it would be even harder for greens to get anything? No veteran shops or donor materials in the economy or drops or big trades or fun events etc. Etc.

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    Donor 400s get 3 diamonds a day, a creative item worth up to 4000 diamonds, all the grass iron diamonds and spawneds from kits, and dont have to worry about food health and having to build towers to reach places since they have /fly, all in 1 purchase. Try achieving that as a non-donor.
     
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    The point is they have a reason to complain. Im not saying that theyre 100% right and that the admins need to fix the server, Im just saying that they have valid reasons. And yes it directly effects non donors because with all the donor kits entering the economy at once, it causes inflation. Donors have steady income so this doesnt effect them as much.

    Put it this way, you have a steady salery while the money non donors have continuously drops value on a day-to-day basis. They dont have a steady salery.
     
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    It's called voting and it takes more work than typing /kit donor25 does.
    If this server wasn't pay to win nobody would pay and there would be no server.
     
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    Compare a couple grass to the kits a donor400 gets. Not to mention that grass from voting could go towards food alone.

    Guys repeating that 'donating keeps the server alive so who cares!' doesnt dismiss the argument, its annoying.
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    Skyblock is more "Pay for Perks" than pay to win. Logically in a server where the objective is just to build and survive there is no "win".

    You pay for your personal goals. If you want to be rich you may look to buy the rank with diamonds in the kit. If you want to build with ease you pick the rank with fly. Maybe you cannot afford ranks but you want items easier so you buy them. Maybe you want to see how impressive your builds can be without a rank.

    Maybe you gain a personal win but mainly you pay for the perks and help the server keep running. But you are mainly thinking about what you want, not what everyone else wants. I mean no one who donated probably said "Maybe I shouldn't donate because a greenie might have a bad time".

    And while it is a mods job to ensure that players are subject to an environment where they can have good, clean fun it is not our responsibility to care if someone is upset because they are not a donor or to care if a greenie needs to eat food or do a lot of selling to make wealth. It is not staffs responsibility to make players have fun and to be rich and to be successful at the game. This comes with effort and whether you want to get a rank to speed the process on your personal goals.

    It is silly to define an infinite, surviving game with no clear goal as one that gives a pay to win imo.
     
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    Pay to Win is when you donate something to receive good things/perks here. With those perks you can get diamonds/grass easily and upgrade your island. This may be considered as Pay For Perks too.
     
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    mmm its definately pay for an easier experience but i wouldnt call it pay to win. plus tons of donors help non donors out so i'd say its about fair.
     
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    It's in fact "pay to spoil your and others game experience" IMHO.

    I can clearly see why Mojang modified and enforces its new EULA.

    Even if it is a sandbox game you cannot win, you can achieve your personal goals much easier with the perks. And as someone said before, it is causing inflation. Mainly with the diamonds.

    But EULA is gonna clear all this one day, as it has done with Mineverse:

    Faction Reset | Mineverse Forums
    The upcoming loss of all donor ranks? | Mineverse Forums
     
  20. CthuluDancing
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    Okay so let's take out the donor perks. Now the only diamonds in circulation are the ones already existing. Hmmm you think prices are inflated now? Wait until NO ONE can get these items regularly. Communism didn't work in real life what makes you think it will work in minecraft? And no it d9rsnt affect your gameplay. It affects the donors gameplay. This server has an economy just like any server or society or governement or group of people period, and just because some are rich and some are poor does not mean it's broken. If you seriously are so upset that someone else has more than you that it ruins your gameplay then you have a really crappy outlook on life period.

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