Ban auto-grinders

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  1. skizzors
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    Recently, the main way of getting money on org has been to grind. I believe grinding needs to be nerfed, and there has to be a more involved way of making money. A way to start "nerfing" grinding, would be to ban automatic grinders. These types of grinders have been becoming more and more popular, as they require zero effort to use. You just stand in front of it, and the machine does all the killing. With a traditional grinder, you actually have to do work. Whether it be spamming the mouse, killing your finger, or using kill aura, they still involve some amount of work.

    Auto grinders make it way too easy to make money. Some may argue that this is a good thing, for new players to start off and get money fast, but that is not the point of org. Org is an economy server, in order for money (Skybucks) to be worth anything, they have to be associated with some sort of work. Whether it be farming pumpkins, mining stone, or even playing mob arena, you are still getting money from putting effort in. However, with auto-grinders, you put no effort in, and get money at the end. The only thing you spend is time, which you can spend doing something else, as the only thing you need to pay attention to is not the lag, but whether your inventory is full or not.

    Now that automatic grinders are the new way of getting money, the value of money is going to go down, as it is so easily obtainable. And as an economy, you don't want the value of your currency to fall.

    People who are arguing to keep auto-grinders might also say that they reduce lag. And yes, that is true, to some extent. Auto-grinders do (almost) eliminate the possibility of the TPS dropping because of a massive amount of mobs. However, since auto-grinding is so much easier, more people will use it and there will be even more mobs on the server to cause lag.

    By banning all grinders that kill the mobs for you (whether it be by suffocation, lava, drowning, etc.), you not only start to get a better economy, but also help the server run faster and cooler.

    Whether you are not going to support, or are going to support, please provide your thoughts in a reply!
     
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    No support.
    Auto grinding takes far longer than kill aura grinding and you can make money faster using aura than you would standing afk. All you need is stand with a sword with aura. Plus if you afk at an auto killer you end up getting a full inv, you don't put it away, and you end up losing stacks of powder anyway. It is not efficient.
    Plus auto killing mechanisms help reduce the server strain. It would be silly to ban them.

    If anything mob drops should not be allowed to be sold in the shops, we need a money sink to encourage spending and encourage more farming which takes time to grow and harvest even with hacks.
    But the only reason why Auto killing is encouraged is it is the least disruptive to everyone.
     
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    no support
    I use auto grinding for my island so that I can decorate it with the blocks as well as XP
     
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    Do you even play org?
     
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    Auto grinding makes it easier to get money, which ruins the economy. Would you really want a spawner to be sold for let's say, 250k average?
     
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    at times I have been here almost 4 years but mostly on .net .-.
     
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    IT FREAKING SHOWS YOU BLOODY AUTO GRINDING WTF U GOT LAVA DAMMIT.... No support at ALL Because I would LOVE for the economy to collapse that way ill be rich with my iron ingots and some of my spawners
     
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    No, I'm using killaura. You can see the sword. Please use your eyes.
     
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    What's your username? Because I did /seen rootbeer2222 and it said player not found
     
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    OOOoooooohhhh Sorry my bad
     
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    same name have not been on /org in like a year
     
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    meaning you don't really play org.
     
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    I guess not
     
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    Then why would you say:
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    No Support, sorry.
    All the reasons are stated above.
     
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    There have been many reasons. Could you please tell me which one(s)?
     
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    What Krissy said basically...
     
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    I'm on the fence about this, but I also know nothing of this as well.

    I'm one of the richest members on org, sold my net rares to get a head start- I never really got the chance to really understand the value of a single dollar so my addition to this is more of how I see it more than a support or not.

    I can see how each side has its pros and cons-​

    Pro Banning:
    The people who put the time and effort in are the ones who are rich

    I just see it more of a rewarding feeling "I killed all of these mobs, and now I am here"

    You can't really 'cheat'? I guess, your way to success. (But Kill Aura is still a thing but welp)

    It will make items deflate in price therefore lowing prices then what they currently are- which I think is great for new players joining mainly due to spawner prices being reduced, which means more grinders, more money sources- cycle.
    Pro Non-Banning:
    Less lag, obviously.

    People would prefer it this way- less time, more money.

    The idea of "banning" something always want people to say no in general.

    If this is banned, so should Kill aura, its kinda similar by how it kills mobs without you fully getting involved- hack client users can earn more money then vanilla players. -Same Situation-

    So yeah... my idea is just add a lava cycle so it kills everything in the spawner every 5 minutes, then grind for 5 minutes, then lava, grind, lava, grind... :D Iunno.

    But either way, no support or support from me, just throwing my two cents in :b
     
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    thx for your feedback, and do you mean you grind with killaura or what?
     

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