That is not always clear before they are tmod

 

I agree with most of what you're saying.
On a utopian server, a fix would be to keep the rank, but leave the trial period at a month maximum and at that point promote by default. However, in my experience, the trial moderators are left for months, clambering to do something special to be noticed by Cypriot and get that promotion. It doesn't have to be anything big, it just has to be at the right time: that fateful day when Cyp comes on and does a whole bunch of promotions at once. Look back at the tribal case. He might not have been active for that long, so I see that point, but also note that his intent to keep up so quickly illustrates my point: promotion is less about how much you do and more about how much is noticed. You don't really notice when someone isn't working because you don't pay close attention to everyone, but a guy filling up the first 3 pages of reports? Now that's full moderator quality. The trial rank is not being used as it should be, and I'm sure some of these trial moderators are fully capable and willing to take on the role of full moderator if only senpai would notice them...

Another instance I would like to bring up is the_dirty_ninja. I'm not sure many would know of him, but I know blaq does. He got full mod and then super mod so quickly it was actually kind of disheartening for the rest of us who tried so hard for so long just to be ignored because we weren't show-offy enough about it. Dirty barged in and took over appeals of his higher-ups, made decisions on things he had no jurisdiction over, and somehow that proved that he just needed more power so he could be able to do those things. Of course we'd all been willing, but we bode our time, putting our faith in the meritocracy, but evidently, it's not what it seems.

All in all, in this case, I agree with the removal of the rank, but honestly, it's not like this is really gonna get us anywhere. The rank is here to stay, I'm afraid ;/

 

I honestly can see both sides to this. Reading the other moderator's replies has made me understand the reasoning behind the rank a lot more; but, I definitely understand your thinking.

 

No.

 

You're 100% right. It's a who can show off the most to Cyp ://

Alright

No? That's it? Okay...

 

For any of you who say keep the rank so they can be watched over... Let me bring up two prime examples from my experiences...

Maxutah - Old old old hellblock trial mod. He had to be coming up on a year it was way too long. One mod simply asked Cyp something along the lines of "is he every going to be promoted?" Cyp simply responded in a way showing that he had no idea who this trial mod was... Sounds like they are watched over pretty well

Iamandrewj - One of my fellow tmods on org. The only reason he and I got promoted to full mod was because he asked Cyp in a pm to be promoted... That's the only reason. Not to mention my other tmods at the time didn't get promoted because simply they werent online... (This refers to what Sleepyhead08 said about being on at the right times)

 

I just don't see the point in having a trial moderator that has been a trial mod for a year, that's just against the point of having the rank.

 

That was a while ago now. We as a staff team are honestly trying. We watch everyone and suggest promotions when people are ready. We discuss everyone as a team and try and do what's best. It's not the old skyblock anymore. I understand what you're saying, but some current and recent proof of mods would be better than older ones who are gone now.

 

It should be Cyp's job to evaluate the staff not you guy..?

 

The rank of TMod is essential, and if any of you have had a job in a professional environment, you would know this is reminiscent of a corporate job. Many places will have a "probationary" period, lasting anywhere from 30 days to a year, in which an individual is given a job (in this case, added to the staff team) but given limited responsibilities and permissions (the TMod rank). With a server this size, it is absolutely imperative to have a TMod rank like this, as you simply can't go handing out Moderator permissions all willy nilly. You have to see who can handle the pressure, the responsibility, and keep their cool. Granted, the system is not perfect in it's current state. In fact, it needs to be completely rethought. The obvious bottleneck here is the lack of admin involvement, as they are busy running the other various day-to-day operations. There is a lot of work to be done, but removing the rank most certainly is not the correct answer.

 

The problem with this suggestion is that all it does is create a new problem to solve an old one. If an in between were possible, it would have been done already. No time is too short, and a few months is too long, but the sweet spot is impossible to achieve given the circumstances.

 

The real problem lies much higher than this. Any changes made specifically to the TMod rank would simply be a bandaid, the server needs a true solution.

 

lol well good luck with that through a handy suggestions section

 

They should just start making the barrier from tmod to moderator a bit more stricter. I know some *certain* tmods who are not really online lots and, in my opinion, should be demoted.

 

What you're highlighting, though, seems like you're more disgruntled management rather than the actual rank?

 

Actually, currently the tmod rank is pointless. I have just thought of a good example. Our tnub ~Agent~ got promoted to a mod and now she re-applied and is back to tmod. Why again tmod? She passed the barrier once, and not a long time ago so why do we need this rank?

You might aswell rename the rank as Helper.

 

No support, aha

 

I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm not Cyp, I can't speak for him.

 

As Grace said: no for removing the rank, but yes for a better system.

 

The tmod rank is fine. It clearly works, as many other servers use it as well as us. There's a lot of stuff a trial moderator can't do when compared to a full moderator, and a lot that a full moderator can't do when compared to a supermod. With your logic here you might as well say that we should only have one type of mod, with an appointed leader... much like mineverse. However, that system only works when you've got multiple servers on your network.

I would agree that a better system should be in-place... As a lot of trial mods can become easily demotivated and only put effort in when someone of importance (Cypriot) is online. This could easily be argued that if they've fallen to this level then they're not ready to be full moderators, to which I agree at an extent.

Yes, it's frustrating when people ask you to do something, and you have to return the message with a denial because you don't have the permissions to do so, but you can very easily request someone who does have the permissions to come and help you.

Look at it this way: in the stages of trying to attain the position of trial mod, you'd seem to be as helpful as possible, and prove that you'd be a good moderator. As a trial mod this is still your job, however you now have a rank and a few basic permissions to carry out the job and make it easier, as well as be taken more seriously and not just seen as a mini-modder.