[Global] Remove the TMod Rank

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  1. dolpinmilk
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    Okay for those of you who don't know the tmod rank was supposed to be between a 2 week to a month period. But this trial time is ridiculous when there is no admin to watch them. Simply, what mods say about them (but probably no one even says anything). As far as I'm aware, no TMod has ever been denied the mod rank. Yes tmods have indeed been demoted, but that's they're own fault and they screwed up. No one has ever been told, you're not good enough, and then demoted.

    This rank simply just restricts tmods. And when there's a 250 players, restriction is pretty stupid. Especially when often there isn't enough staff online to help (most of the time 1-3mods) the idea of restricting a mod from helping just hurts the server.

    The idea of a TMod rank is indeed good. But the idea of not promoting these tmods for 3 months is a dumb idea.

    So; simply remove the tmod rank (like how it used to be) or make this an actual trial period, not a "oh shoot i have mods to promote" after like 5 months...
     
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    There are many factors which influence how quickly staff get promoted, least of which is time as a TMod. There are valid reasons for the restrictions that were placed on the rank, and it hinges on their ability to demonstrate trustworthiness and reliability. Until that happens, they can help out in a smaller fashion, which is still better than not at all.
     
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    Eh. Think back to the all the old corrupted tmods that got demoted. lol I don't support the rank gone but I do support a better system.
     
  4. dolpinmilk
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    Care to explain these factors, because frankly it isn't clear.

    Let's took at our fellow tnub Tribal (:heart:) sorry you're going to be my slave (;

    - Been TMod 9 Months
    - One of the more active tmods
    - Dealt with tons of reports

    Let's look at the first three page of archives...
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    So clearly dealing with reports doesn't get you promoted faster as a TMod...
    I can't say being active gets you promoted faster as Cyp barely plays...
    And time clearly does nothing as he was a Tmod for 9 months... coming up on 10...

    Explain what will get someone promoted faster. Because all I see is a bunch of lies...
     
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    Tribal had 2 days of solid activity. Go back to the time of his promotion and see how much he really did. If he was actually doing a good job he would have been pushed for the role of full mod more. You cannot just come back after being inactive for a long time and expect promotion by a couple days work.
     
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    He was using tribal as an example.
     
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    I know but he isn't the best one
     
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    I agree with blaq -- there are a lot of things that go into being promoted. Most of the people who are corrupt mods are singled out during the tmod stages. If someone deserves to be promoted, then they'll get promoted. All the tmods who haven't been promoted have a reason why they weren't promoted.
     
  9. corn doggo
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    No mods are the best. It's all opinions.
     
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    Yes, but there are bad and inactive mods. It's bound to happen.
     
  11. corn doggo
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    No mods are good or bad - It's only opinions.
     
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    That's not true. What if a mod breaks strict moderator rules? What if they are very rude to players? What if they abuse their powers? What if they lie and break Cyp's trust?

    They are definitely bad moderators if they do any of that.
     
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    They're bad in one's opinion - May not be bad in another's opinion.
     
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    Ok, let's not go off topic, lol. We heading there xD

    I get your point, but Krissy is basing her opinion off of facts.
     
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    Actually, not really, and it really isn't necessary to explain the inner workings of the staff promotion process to you, especially if you appear bottom-hurt about the fact that your best buddy hasn't been promoted recently.

    However, I'll say that one of the key selection factors is trustworthiness, which also includes a mods social circle, aka the people who their close with.
     
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    Sadly a lot of moderators do wrong and some of them don't even know all of the rules xD
    This tmod rank is a way to filter the good from bad. I'd agree that this filter isn't the best as I know myself bad moderators who got supermod etc. If I'm not mistaken cyp is talking to Roblox before promoting, so he does get some information. However, this information isn't enough. The system isn't the best, I admit. But removing the "filter" will just make it worse. The best way to go is for the owners to get active or promote new owners (know they won't do that).

    Good luck and keep fighting for better.
     
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    Support for a better system ^
     
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    Hey now. This guy was moderator 1-2 years and has been on the server longer then both of us. Don't throw the bias card just because he used his friend as an example. He's been here longer then the tmod rank. Lol
     
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    I am a Trial-Moderator myself. And I completely understand why this phase is mandatory. It's because we lack experience, and this is a kind of learning and testing phase where we teach ourselves all necessary things to be a good moderator. We need to be prepared to take on the role of a full time moderator. And when the time comes to be promoted? We will be ready, because of this tmod phase.

    Hope that helped. This tmod phase is really necessary for everyone no matter who they are. :)

    ~Tom
     
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    The trial moderator rank exists for a reason. When cyp adds a new user to the team, he does not know how they will act as a mod, and that is why he puts them as trial mods. If he just promoted people to mod right away, with no restrictions, then the people who applied for mod just for the power, would get that power too soon. Usually, cyp is able to catch this type of applicant within the trial period, and demote them so they don't do much damage to the server.
     

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