Alright, I read your whole post but... it doesn't make a lot of sense in the end.

Dirt trade will never be legalized because that will promote island farming, because virtually everyone who has dirt wants to keep their dirt. I know I would never part with it, so the only way to get more would be to /newisland replace and farm it... it being illegal also encourages people to donate and vote for the server to get grass blocks, which helps Crew and Cyp out.

By the way, estimates show a 10%-60% reduction in alcohol consumption (island farming in your analogy, I think?) during prohibition varying by year. But we'll never really know because there were no sale records cause it was. Well. Illegal.

 

Also, on org it makes the eco better, more grass trades.

 

No, I do see what you are saying. It makes sense, but there are pros and cons.

Firstly, if dirt is legal to trade, then there wouldn't be a black market because it's already cheap enough. It works somewhat like texting and driving. If texting and driving is illegal in a state, such as California, then people will try to hide their phones by texting in secrecy while driving. This action makes people more susceptible to crashes, making it be even more distracting. Similarly, people will stop doing it in secrecy, but there will always be a black market.

However, where this does not fit in is that your logic doesn't quite make sense. Promoting island farming and trading dirt are two completely different things. Here's a little illustration:

Island farming -> get dirt -> trade dirt
Trade dirt -> island farming

Hopefully, you see that it doesn't go the other way around. As Offline said, it's pretty obvious that it will be harder to differentiate between illegal and legal dirt, and it will probably get rid of most of the black market. In order for this to be implemented, there would have to be a cooldown of making a new island as well as automatic denial of VPN's from joining a server (to bypass cooldown).

 

This is not a good idea. No support. As Lem said, it has both Pros and Cons.

~Tom

 

No. Just no. Island farmers would go around selling dirt. Just no.

 

Then theres no point in terraforming and grass would be worthless other than for warp shop but lets face it hardely anyone uses warp shop.

 

no support ;//

 

No, no no. Absolutely no support.

 

There are simply too many posts for me to even to reply to at this point. I left the thread assuming nobody would even reply past the first person who criticized its' previous post. To reply to some common posts, I'll just leave this post here.

"This isn't a debate forum."

You suggest an idea, and just leave it to rot? Do you know how unrealistic it is to expect unanimous agreement upon an idea? Are you serious? No. Just stop, please.

"Why are you bringing amendments into a game?"

I'm not. This is an economy server, and that was a real life economic event which sparked a lot of controversy, and happened to be relevant to my argument. My argument argued for the idea I suggested. I debated further in defense of my idea. What's your point here?

"This post makes no sense."

Good on you for thinking that. Nothing of substance here.

"You showed no respect in your counter-argument."

Why would I show respect when you didn't? Are you telling me it's respectful to post a meme image saying "logic" like my argument was the most ridiculous thing in the entire world, all while failing to make any kind of a point? Alright then.

"Island farmers would go around farming dirt!"

Literally everyone saying this has either not even read the original posts and my counter-argument to someone who claimed the same thing, or just don't understand everything I've been saying in this thread.

All in all, I've gotten no meaningful discussion, or replies. Some people have brought up valid points, other people have just acted immaturely, and that is on you. To all the people saying the forum isn't for discussion, you suggest an idea, and you defend it. If only ideas that are going to get unanimous support from the user-base are allowed here, then the legitimacy of this forum as a place to suggest ideas is completely and utterly null.

I'd like an admin to lock the thread, please and thank you. No grudges toward any of you, you firmly hold your beliefs and I will probably never be able to change that. If this thread has gotten the attention of mods, I would like to speak with them personally, and discuss my idea. If anyone wants sources for any of claims, PM me and I will gladly give them at any point in time. Otherwise, the thread is over. Bye all.

 

Definitely No support. Not only will this ruin the economy, it will also make island farming more frequent and giant farms for cheap. I don't understand the problem with using grass instead.


I understand you using real life scenarios to explain your point, but I feel comparing real life and a video game seems a little bit impractical.
However, thank you for voicing your opinion and making a stand. Good luck to you in the future!

 

No support. People would run around island farming.

 

Yeah, Lucy has a very good point there. The economy would be illegally effected. No support.
Don't play much but I have my say in this as well.

 

Hello Amazingtyler,
I m will have to go with no support for now.
Reasons why I go with no support:
~ If Dirt trade gets legalized, it will encourage the island farmers since they can get dirt.
~ This will ruin the economy pretty much
~ Also why legalize dirt trade as we have Grass trade which grass later you can transfer it to dirt by placing it and breaking it.
Best regards, Rolly

 

RobloxianRoblox lock this he requested

 

I dont have an opinion but I'll give an example for this. If you tell a child to not touch something what does that kid do? Touch that thing. If you wouldnt tell him to not touch it he wouldnt even bother touching it.

 

uummm thats why we have the currencies. we use grass becuase people can place it down for farming on it. we trade iron as money but also to make tools. we trade dia to buy expensive stuff but we also use it for jukeboxes and tools. if you want dirt just ask for donations or vote a lot for grass to place. and on the sand topic donor100's get 15 A DAY. if you need sand just ask them if they would like to trade. ( i know sand trade is illegal but if you place the sand on an item frame the other player can get it.

 

LOCK Im going crazy today shhhh

 

No Support
reasons stated above.

 

The terreforming part in building our island is way too hard. If we could trade dirt, I think it would be easier. I also think that if dirt is allowed in-game, it should worth more than usual

 

This would just encourage Island - farming (which is against the rules).

No support.