Hey recently i was filed for doing, bad stuff, and orriginally was supposed to recieve a PERMANENT BAN(it was lowerd to a 1 week suspension). I was pissed, not only becuase it was only my first offense, but I donate 25 dollars. (not to bring up anything, its been resolved) I dont believe in permanent bans, I think everyone learns there lesson. Plus if someone donated that shows how much they trully care about the server.
this is how I think it should be laid out,
1st offense: warning - 1 week
2nd offense: 1 week -2 weeks
3rd offense: 2 weeks +
4th offense 1 month +
5th offense: 1 month- perm. ban

 

Bans are set on the severity of the offense as well as the way the person who appeals acts. If its a big offense like advertising most stay banned. If its something like death warps/scamming its usually lessened. The person's attitude also plays in as their way of getting back on. If they act like an idiot of course their ban is going to be longer or permanent.

 

I agree, but I dont think anyone ever on their first offense should get banned, theyll learn their lesson and understand the sevarity of the punishment that will come, and with the persons attitude, were you hinting something? hahaha

 

I wasn't hinting anything. And the reason some first time offenses are permanent are the fact that the person may not deserve to be unbanned. Sometimes the crime is so bad by the time the ban happens it doesn't matter what anyone says. For instance a massive grief chain of say 5 islands, a report of several scams, language and general disrespect. However, rarely have a seen these kinds of offenses pop up. It all really comes down to attitude.

 

-_- well I mean yeah if someone is like griefing like 5 places like you said, those are 5 different offenses, If that person just griefed 1 island i think it should be a 1 week ban in that case, depending if that person did it for fun or if it was a done with reason.

 

and it was a joke

 

Horrible ides. No support at all.

 

seriously can someone tell me why? How can you guys just permanent ban someone on their first offense? People really put hard effort into things, and simple things like cursing or advertising should be given a warning to.

 

I'll tell you my explanation. It all depends on the rule broken, for example a simple scam, or a massive griefing and bridging network. People do put effort into things, however that does not count when the effort is a purposely negative one, such as griefing or looting another player. As UngodAlmight said, it depends on the severity of the rule broken. Therefore this suggestion will most likely not be put into effect.

 

Well, first off, we have a lot of people joining the server.

Due to having these large amounts of people joining, there are bound to be a few of them who break the rules and get in trouble.

There is really no easy way to find out how many offences someone has without asking every mod, in the end we'd just be tempbanning the same guy every few weeks or so.

Secondly, with your donor idea, I cannot support this.

Yes, I understand that you paid money to the server and you'd get angry if you couldn't use it.
(I have lost $135 to servers shutting down, so I know how it feels.)

However, we have just as many donors breaking rules as players, in some cases more even.

As we appreciate the donations, we shouldn't treat someone who has a lot of money to donate with any better than a person, lets say, whose parents wont let them.

It'd cause a lot of non-donors to get angry that they get banned more easily.
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Also, five offences is a lot.

 

Not to mention that some might donate just to get that leniency in their punishment for purposeful rule breaking.

 

okay yes, but its just an idea, the real thing I want is for their to NEVER be a permanent ban on the first time, no matter the severity. Although, remember, i'm still talking about DONORS. do whatever to non-donors, but people who actually spend money should be given temp bans, NO LESS THAN 3 WEEKS for severe things like, 1) first offense griefing. People learn, and yes people should have lienency if they donate.

 

Thats the problem though :/ Just because you donate doesn't mean you DESERVE leniency. No matter the amount it really comes down to what they did, why they did it and if they are sorry for it and want to try and come back on the server.

 

okay why dont they deserve leniency, and yes i also do think that they should post a sorry appeal or something, It's just, I, personally spend 2-3 months on a server, and That is minecraft for me right there, If I get banned for that it feels like banning my acount, and allot of people feel this way. I knew this couldnt be done with non-donors, but if you get banned and you donated, thats just flushing money down the drain. and not even getting a warning? or temp ban? thats mean. Donors do deserve leniency, they gave you MONEY, you dont just go banning them, let them explain, give them a chance

 

Just saying, how you are putting your though just states that you want your money. If you deserve aperm ban, then you deserve it

 

Oh and its called a DONATION so you cant take your money back. Besides, you already have enough perks being donor. Your idea could possibly cause Noobcrew more stress..

 

When we get grief reports, we cannot tell if the perpetrator is a donor or not. So, that wouldn't work.

We already tend to be a tad more lenient towards banned donors, depending on the offense. If we pushed it anymore, that'd be unfair to others.

Also, as Souls said, it's too much of a pain to see if it's the person's first offense or not. We can't just look through the logs of hundreds/thousands of bans every time we do one.

 

Everyone is deserved to be treated equally. Just because a person donates to a server, you shouldn't get excused from bans. For example, a donor flies around griefing 5+ islands every day. The person(s) who lives on the island contacts a mod and gets them banned. If nothing was to be done to the certain donor who griefed, he would continue doing it over and over again. The user would get unbanned in a short period of time using YOUR method. Unfortunately, some people do not learn from their mistakes so they continue doing whatever they're doing wrong. That's why mods perm ban people.

 

But thats just it. This is considered donation. It is not the purchase of items that you can just get a refund on. If you do something to get banned from the server forever, well, then buh bye because you won't get it back and you won't get felt sorry for because of the fact that you donated to the server to keep it up. Also many people do get a warning. I rarely even see first time offenders get perma bans unless they act like a complete dumba** in their appeal. I understand that some punishments can be viewed as harsh and I have felt that way reading some of the appeals myself but their is a method to the mod's madness. They are just trying to keep the server in check and keep everything peaceful. If someone goes out of their way to disrupt that and deserve the ban they got but because of a donation get out of it then what is the point?

 

true, true. I just dont want someone getting banned permenantly for something like having an argument with a guy and you end up calling him names. That would just be flat out stupid for a perm ban. I understand It would take allot of work, I just really hate it when I see people get banned for stupid things and they spend lots of time and care into a server