Mistakenly Banned? So what? Eat it and Like it!

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  1. MightyBe
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    You obviously know there are issues with the server because enough people are complaining that you have had to address it already in it's own post. But, instead of fixing it and having understanding towards those locked out indiscriminately, you give a list of benign things to avoid doing and you reprimand us for appealing temp console bans.

    Basically, it's OUR fault if we innocently do any of the things that the server thinks might be flying and we are to suck it up, not be frustrated at it or try fixing it, and we are told so in red font.

    In my case, I was on a row of cobble extending out about 20 blocks from my island as I was widening it when I noticed 1 block missing from my line. Panic set in knowing I was working backwards and that the missing block was ahead of me. I went back to refill the empty line block and was lagged out of the server. I then re-logged in to find this message which probably means that I did NOTHING and your server lag killed me then banned me as I was trying to relog in because I was falling to my death as I did so.

    When I came to see what was up, I was received in the forum by an announcement with harsh words more or less making US responsible for things that are not illegal.

    Sean : Your added "We're not here to disrupt or annoy you." Doesn't pad the fact that you told everyone to not report and wait the thirty minute punishment for doing nothing because appealing will more or less waste mods time since they are unbanned by that point, and to try and avoid 'doing nothing' next time.
    I understand certain things are hard to get to for you guys because you are limited on staff, but the fact you had to even address this means the issue needs to be fixed- not the player's actions.
    Making us responsible for a false ban just makes us feel like crumbsnatchers.

    My temp ban was not caused by myself, it was caused by an over sensitive server ban plugin and that needs to be addressed FIRST before labeling your players as faulty. In the 30 minutes I am waiting out my false server ban, I have already logged into another server and started playing and plugging into that community because I don't have a lot of time to sit waiting to be unbanned for stupid things. I have never been banned in my life from any servers for this issue.

    What should I avoid next time? Playing on the server?
    I don't know, because I didn't do anything wrong! Maybe you should just tell me to avoid standing near the edge of my blocks or expanding my island out because that's ultimately what did it.

    My vent here is more because of the way players are being handled for things out of their control, not because there are issues that exist.

    A far better way to have gone about it would be to ACKNOWLEDGE that the console is sensitive on certain things, and to apologize to people if they were unrightfully banned. Maybe make a separate forum specifically for temp bans so that they can be seen and resolved FASTER than 30 minutes- by all means make a list of known ways people have achieved accidental temp bans, but don't tell people they annoy you for reporting a ban because it's 'just the way it is'.
     

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    At this point, I dont even want to log in to my empty inventory to figure out exactly what it was I lost.
     
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    I'm pretty sure this is open for discussion about console bans. Not an appeal.
     
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    Ohhh. Okay I understand Sorry :heart:
     
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    I definitely agree with you by far. The server drops its TPS occasionally then all of the sudden, our staff chat will be flooded with console temp bans. We, the staff, unban those players because they are obviously innocent and are at no fault of what happened when the server lags. I do think we should be able to search for a better plugin that detects legit hacks, rather than lag and mysteriously getting temp banned from something players have no control over.
     
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    Another issue that can be fixed, is the server lag. I don't know what the issues are but I'm pretty sure the administrators can go in-depth and see what causes it so it prevents this from happening.
     
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    Agreed this is an issue, and the majority of console bans are probably lag-induced rather than actually catching fly hackers.

    Like Noc said, when we notice this happening (during a lag spike) we always unban, but sometimes it can happen without us noticing. You don't need to appeal console bans. If you can manage to get the attention of a mod on the forum that has access to the game and explain the situation, we can unban you :)
     
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    Thing is i do not understand when people go and appeal "why am i banned for 30 mins"
    Mods be like, 'Please fill up the format :) "
    I mean, u know that its a console ban, a incorrect one.
    Then once the poor dude filled up the format, you terrible people will say " Sorry, we do not unban tempbans"

    Thanks you OP for making this thread.
    (OP= Original poster)
     
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    That was such an inconsiderate statement.
     
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    If you are talking about my statement of 'you terrible people'
    Its a exaggeration and a way of speech.

    If you are saying me point out what u mods said is inconsiderate and i should just pm u guys, i dont see why should i.


    Edit: Proof that i am not talking bullshit.
    ban appeal. [Console] [handled] | Skyblock Forums
     
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    Regardless, exaggeration or sarcastic; it was inconsiderate in general lol.
     
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    According to the dictionary, inconsiderate means 'thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others.'
    Please enlighten me on who i have hurt or brought inconvenience to.
    I will delete my post or edit it if needed since im not here to start a fight.
     
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    Well, here we go, I have to say you are absolutely correct and maybe this should be a suggestion. You are however lucky I ready far enough to understand what your saying. The first part is a rant that will scare any potential positive feedback away. So, maybe change this up and make it a suggestion and less of a complaint.
     
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    Woah this isn't an argument this is a suggestion. Maybe I was the only one
    Who survived the rougher part but it has a serious suggestion in there about changing the plugin. I think it should only be a kick IMO.
     
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    Wait, what? This wasn't suppose to be an argument lol.
     
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    I mean console bans are bad, I've always argued that it should just be a kick. It would have the same effectiveness since the whole point of that plugin is to remove people trying to fly hack.

    On another note, teamspeak bans are probably more messed up imo. I got banned for "language" while I was in a channel with 4 ts mods that were dropping f bombs. I think I said s*** like one time. Never did appeal that, since I really didn't care, and they cleared the ban list like a month later. Not meaning to throw any mods under the bus, but js no one follows or enforces the language rule.
     
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    Worded in a presumptuous manner but i do agree it is an issue. For now eat it as you would your mac & cheese.
     
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    Most places use just a kick. "Kicked for flying." etc.
    30 min ban is a bit harsh... especially if the margin for error is high.
    I certainly don't think falling should qualify as 'flying'. I wish there could be a perimeter you could specify- for example an X:Y change requirement to meet an expectation for the definition of 'flying'. But, I'm pretty sure they don't make the plugins and are held hostage to the developer's bugs.
     
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    ^ This would be so much more productive than, "Don't even bother because it's more trouble than it's worth." lol! You totally got it, Kerahna!
     

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