Have you ever been scammed by using the normal trade method (dropping the items)?
Do you with there was a safer way to trade with people?

I want there to be a safe trade system. My idea is: /trade then right click the person you want to trade with. They type something like /trade accept. It will then show your inventory and their inventory. There would be 5 slots (similar to hopper slots) that you can put the items you want to trade. Then you press the enter button to accept the trade.

I think this might be too hard to implement, so we could use a different tequnique, but we need safer trading.

 

There are tradeshops, that are currently disabled but once that's fixed then this is all fixed.

 

This would be great if it happened. The perfect format would be an exact copy of the trade system that was implemented in Team Fortress 2.

1. Basically, pretty much as was mentioned above, one person sends a request to another. (This was done through steam chat)
2. That person would then have a given time to accept the invitation to trade.
3. If accepted, the players would enter into a screen where they see their inventory, what they are offering for trade, and what the other player is offering for trade.
4. Once each player has put up the items they want to offer, they click done. Once both players have put up what they want to offer, and clicked done, they progress to the next screen.
5. Lastly, each player confirms that they want to do the trade, seeing both what they are offering and what is being offered to make sure it's clear what will be gained and lost.
6. If both players are satisfied, they each accept the trade and the items are placed in the respective players' inventories.

Long explanation, but wanted to be thorough.

Right now, unfortunately, the only way to trade in a chest, which is the only way a mod can help if you run into problems, is to trust a player with your entire island. With spawners, beacons, and many other valuable types of blocks on islands, that's a big ask and I'm not a fan.

TL;DR
I support this idea and I hope it happens soon.

 

There was something like this but it was removed due to people losing items in glitches

 

On a server of 300-500 people, with only a handful of moderators you cannot expect a mod to be available to watch every time you want to make a trade.

As I already mentioned, using a chest requires trusting a player with your entire island, which is not an acceptable option. LogBlock is not perfect and griefing cannot always be undone.

Lastly, recording all of your gameplay is doable, but not a workable option for the vast majority.

The answer is a plugin like this.

 

My "normal" trades often include spawners and lots of diamonds. They are frequent, and usually done late at night when there are no mods around. My only option, as already stated, is to trust them with my entire island or drop it all on the ground.

While they are not as valuable as my rares, I still don't want to risk losing valuable items when a system like this would solve the problem.

 

I should probably be more descriptive and detailed when it comes to replying to this. So I'm combining all of my posts into one. This post will be my final answer for the moment.

No Support,
-If you are trading rares ask a mod if they aren't busy to watch the trade.
-There's the chest shop plug-in which should be working soon.
-Screenshot or record the trade.
-Trade using a chest. (logblock is now enabled.)

 

I realize you're done, and that's fine. There are a few flaws to your thinking still.

1. Again, as was already mentioned (maybe you missed it?), mods are frequently unavailable to moderate trades.

2. The chest shop idea is potentially a solid one, just make a new chest for each trade, and hope that the item you're trading isn't something special. Anything outside of Stone, Grass, and Brick might have a hard time since item id's are sporadic and names often don't make a lot of sense. That and it's a lot of work to get right.

3. It's an option, yes, however a picture of an empty chest, or of your inventory doesn't really do much, and expecting people to run a video capture program while playing Minecraft to secure trades is a bit absurd.

4. LogBlock, while great sometimes, does not always work. I've been majorly griefed here 4 times in the past, all when logblock was enabled, and all 4 times no items were returned to me..

You're a bit new here, so you may not remember it, but it would happen frequently that even with logblock installed and enabled, logs would not be kept and items could not be returned. I cannot tell you how many spawners I lost and never got returned to me because no logs were found, not to mention a few beacons and thousands of other random blocks. You seem to think that LogBlock is perfection and that it will solve all the problems, when history shows us that is not always true.


I honestly don't understand what you don't agree with. You're fighting against a simple 1 size fits all solution. You're fighting to keep your limitations, and that keeps us all from progress.

It's like not supporting the creation of the cotton gin because we already have slaves doing the work by hand. We already have a solution, let's stop progressing!

You've not agreed or disagreed with the merits of the idea to any extent. All you've said is that there are these other less efficient, more complex, and highly unreliable solutions which exist, so let's just keep those instead of doing something that is easier for everyone.


Tell me now why this idea is bad.

 

I don't want this to turn into a flame war, if you would like to continue this I can answer it through a PM. Other wise my answer is final.

 

I don't mean for it to become a flame war, and if you thought I was rude in some way, I apologize. I've not attacked you personally in any way, and a debate does not equate to an argument, so I don't see where the flame war idea is coming from. Challenging peoples' ideas, and having your own challenged in turn, is a part of life.

I simply don't understand why you don't support it.

The system we have now is inferior to what this would accomplish. If you truly can't see how that is true then we are at an impass.

I don't need for you to agree with me, I just want to understand why you think this is a bad idea. Simply having alternatives to this doesn't make this a bad idea.

If you're going to support/not support something you should do so based on the merits of the idea.

 

He doesn't support.

He is also not the only person on this server.
So his input, while negative.
Is his input.

There isnt a need to ask over and over.
Agree to disagree..

Get new feedback from other players.

 

Support. It is a good idea.

There are trade plug-ins. At least 56 different ones on JUST one plug-in site. Just for trading.

Every computer program has glitches. So, why not test some? until one is good, or Perfect.. but I would settle with good.

The current system is far worse than occasional glitches.

 

Nah. We got tradeshop, yooo.

 

There is tradeshop. It is broken right now, but what we need is the existing plugins fixed not new ones added.

 

I don't think anyone can claim that any system we currently have, broken or otherwise, is better in theory than what a plugin like this would be.

It would take a Dev being willing to code it but, if done well, it would remove headaches from needing to manage the tradeshop, griefs from people /trusting to do chest trades, and lighten the load on mods being asked to watch trades.

If built, this plugin would trade 3 headaches for 1 in a much more streamline system.

Either way, all of those who are so far opposing this still aren't doing so based on the merits of the idea. You're just saying you don't like it because other things exist that, while broken and inefficient, can accomplish the same thing.

 

We have tradeshops, It's now added back.

 

I already suggested this lol

 

Sorry but it does not appear on the server that I join ... perhaps skyblock.net is the incorrect one

 

Both skyblock.net and skyblock.org both have some sort of chestshop.

 

Sorry but it does not appear on the server that I join ... perhaps skyblock.net is the incorrect one

If you or anyone has a trade area that "fully" supports chests and trade signs I would love to see it...