Denied PigNogger Appeal #2 [eunice]

• Punished account name: PigNogger
• Platform or server punished on: Economy
• Ban message if applicable: Extreme island farming
• Have you read the rules? Yes
• Do you think this punishment was incorrect? No
• Why should you be unbanned? I have never once island farmed. My island right now is the only island I have ever made on this server. As well Super_Market my little brother should be rightfully banned. He has admitted to island farming to me and regrets doing it. But when we were getting dirt from him he told us it was straight from /shop. I believe that that could be illegal item trading but he is my little brother and was trusted on our island so I didn’t think anything of it. Looking back now we all were new I was still learning lots each and everyday and I can easily see how obviously that dirt was island farmed and not bought from /shop. If I can prove my brother in anyway I am more than willing. I will truthfully answer any questions you need. This is my first ban. I was unaware of the situation until I got banned and it’s a 31 day ban. That’s a long ways to go and knowing me. If I can’t get anyone hear me out and at least reduce my ban after all I have done I will probably with great sadness not play on the server and find a new server or game when my ban is lifted...
• Please list any other times you were punished on Skyblock: Nothing
• If you know, tag the staff member that banned you: Geo eunice
• Do you understand and accept our rules and code of conduct? Yes

 

Our records show that both you and Mr_Bigams have island hopped and farmed dirt repeatedly on different islands.

Yes. He is rightfully banned. But so are you. If you had known about Super_Market illegally farming dirt, you could've come forward to any of the staff members and explain the situation. We could confiscate the dirt etc. for you. But no, what you've decided to do is to continue to use those amounts of dirt for your private gain- creating a pumpkin farm.

This appeal is about you and the rules you broke. Your constant mentions of Super_Market will not get you far with this appeal. So please do not try to condone your actions using Super_Market as an excuse.

I can see how you may not understand the sort boundaries that comes with illegal trading especially since he is your brother, that is understandable. However, sharing dirt with people who are not in your coop is considered as illegal trading. Thus the fact that he's been constantly "supplying" you with dirt is considered as dirt trade. You may not have known of it but now you do.

This may be your first ban but it is a 31 day ban because large amounts of dirt was involved, over 3000 dirt was traded between Super_Market, yourself, and Mr_Bigams. Not to mention, from the logs, it did seem like you were aware that this was a wrongful thing to do. Almost all the activity dirt trades between you and Super_Market was done through hoppers. This includes the dirt that is currently sitting in the chests on Super_Market's island as well as the dirt that went through the "map art donation" hopper. It seemed like you were trying to avoid being logged of dirt through transferring the dirt through hoppers. Could you explain on this?

Moreover, this wasn't mentioned in your ban message as I had initially thought this was just a simple case of island farming as well as dirt trading. But after looking more into your dirt activity since your ban, it seems that you had been consistently looting other inactive players who have little playtime of their dirt, buckets, and sand. Could you explain this also?

From the responses in your appeal so far, you have not been taking responsibility of your actions and have instead been putting it on Super_Market. The purpose of an appeal is simple- for players who may or may not have known about rules to claim responsibility. I had urged you to come forward and be truthful to me about your actions in your last appeal, and really give a think about the rules you've broke. But so far you have not done so.

I will reiterate this once again. If you really are serious about appealing for your ban, take responsibility of your actions.

 

Can you explain what island hopped means? I have only had my 1 island and that is it.

 

Island hopping is essentially island farming but it's also when you repeatedly join new island coops and reset the island (Mr_Bigams and yourself) to dig up illegal items.

 

Can you please look at logs of how many islands me (PigNogger) has "island farmmed" because I am positive that I have only had my original island from the very start and have never "reset" my island.

As I had said before. I was unaware of where the dirt came from that was supplied by super market. I wouldn't have taken 3k dirt from him if I
had know it was island farmed. I only found out when he told me the day we got banned.

I fully understand this now and I agree with it. I was still unaware at the time and I am really sorry.

I don't know what the point of the hoppers were to be honest I didn't even know they went through the hoppers because Supermarket just said that he go dirt and it was in that chest while I was building the pumpkin farm and doing other stuff on the server. Supermarket told me to put the dirt in the hoppers on his island and i was just listening and not questioning it

I admit to doing this however I did not know that when being trusted that you can get in trouble for it. At the time the player were still active and they are now "inactive". I am guilty however I was unaware of the fine line rules behind this. I reread the rules yesterday and I am now positive that I know the difference between right and wrong trades and use of dirt. I am once again very sorry and I am 100% guilty of these acts.

 

Is it possible that Mr_Bigams and yourself were previously in a coop but reset the coop a few times, or did you have your current island since day one of joining?

If not, then the only explanation I can give is that you have been digging up dirt along with Mr_Bigams repetitively on other player's islands while they've reset their islands.

I appreciate you understanding that your trades between Super_Market and yourself was illegal.

You were however also the only one with activity of creating and destroying the hoppers on the island. Evidently it does seem like you were trying to avoid being logged of transferring the dirt to them.

It really is common sense not to steal, even in real life. Thus, we take looting very seriously and do not permit it, especially with illegal items like dirt and buckets. It does not matter whether or not the player was has been inactive.

Upon looking into this further, other than looting, I've also found out that you had been removing dirt and sand from many different islands.

So far these are the rules you've broke in the span of two months and they are all pretty extreme:

island farming, griefing, looting, illegal dirt trading​

 

Okay so from here can I please just get a 2 week ban?? Please I've learned my lessons and just miss my friends and want to play...

Is there anymore you want to talk about?? Or hear

 

Like I stated before, you've been griefing inactive players of their items including items that are illegal. After checking again, I can confirm that our logs have indicated that you indeed have massively island farmed.

If you still wish to appeal for this ban, please be honest.

All in all, you have yet to address my comments regarding looting other players too.

Please respond to it.

In general, this also isn't about what I want to talk about or what I don't, you need to be the one addressing your actions and take responsibility for it.

Other than that, I'd also like for you to take a look at our rules as seen in this thread: Skyblock Server Rules | Skyblock and write a paragraph in your own words for each rule.

 

I have already said that I know this.

These players that I was looting were still active and I asked if I could take their stuff.

Sorry I know this. I was just asking because there was lots to answer and I didnt know if i answered it all or not. I did not mean it in a rude way.

Abusing server exploits and bugs
This is when a player uses bugs in the sever for his or her profit or gain on other player. It is basically using glitches to duplicate or gain on other players

IRL Trading
Selling in game items for real world currency. Ex. Selling a DP head for $50 pay pal. Any sort of IRL trade for something on the server.

Griefing
Breaking or affecting other players hard work. This could be breaking their blocks on their island or using built redstone that will break stuff. Egging also is under griefing.

Looting
The act of taking other peoples stuff to use for yourself. Going into someone's chest and taking their hard worked items that may or may not hold lots of value to them.

Scamming
Scamming is one person getting ripped off or nothing while another person gets great wealth or gain. Scamming is taking advantage of other players leaving them left with the short end of the stick while you get way more in return.

Player Killing
Killing players for their items and taking their hard work away. Both players should agree with turning on PVP and killing that way where both players agree they are okay with dying.

Alternate Account Limit
This is where a player can only use 2 accounts on economy. They can only have one that they want to play on and one that can sit afk for them. Having more then 2 accounts on eco would be a greater advantage because some players don't even have access to more than 1 account while others could get as many as they want and could use them for their own advantage.

Island Farming
Using accounts to get illegal trade items over and over. This could be buckets and dirt. Sand is also a wealth gained from island farming but is not illegal to trade. When a player resets his or her island they can get the dirt from it and everything else on the island. Many people island farm to get the dirt for their farms to get an advantage over others.

Illegal Trading
Trading illegal items from one player to another. These items include. Dirt, buckets, course dirt, maxed enchanted books and renamed items on economy.

Illegal Hacking
A player using hacks to get an edge on players and giving an unfair advantage over others.

Advertising
Using any noobcrew server to promote other servers not affiliated with noobcrew.

Blackmail and Threats
Blackmail is using something against a player so they give you what you want. Threatening is messages sent to other players that are violent or even death threats.

Inappropriate Builds
Building structures that are inappropriate or that others will take offence to. There are many sensitive things you can build that may hurt others.

Inappropriate Usernames/Skins
Having a username or a skin that is inappropriate for a Minecraft server.

Inappropriate and Disrespectful Comments
Saying hurtful comments in any chat. Respect other players no matter what their background is and who they are as a person because everyone deserves respect.

Malicious Links
Links that may include inappropriate material. There are many young players on the server and they dont need to be seeing that kind of stuff.

Nickname Abuse
Using /nick to make a different name appear in chat. You cannot impersonate another person or make a nickname that will be offensive or subjective.

Chat Offences
Spamming in chat making other players annoyed and not able to chat with fellow players. Also not using fake messages to troll other players,

False Reporting
Trying to get someone wrongfully banned. Making a report with false evidence in the case to try getting a player banned. I feel this could also be tricking another player to do something illegal and then reporting them for doing it.

Punishment Evasion
Using other accounts to loop hole through your ban and playing on another account while still under a ban of another account.

 

Hi, I'd just like to start off by saying thank you for your patience and thank you for taking the time to re-read our rules and writing them out. I hope that you are now more familiar with our server rules and that you have gained an understanding in the rules you broke and why you were punished for it.

Unfortunately, you seem to still be avoiding the island farming bit in your appeal.

Saying that you "know this" isn't enough. You have not acknowledged that you've island farmed. You should be honest and explain how other people were involved too.

These were your only responses regarding my points about you island farming:

I must stress that it is important for you to understand that you have island farmed to prevent the same situation from happening again in the future. As you've said so yourself:

It is definitely illegal to trade or give sand that was originally stolen. Players should fairly earn their money and blocks in game. Moreover, island farming is a huge form of cheating as the game and purpose of skyblock is to survive on a tiny island. Everyone starts out with the minimum blocks and work their way to expand. People island farm to get an advantage over others, which is illegal because these are illegitimate items that are unfair to other players who are playing Skyblock as it was meant to be. You also took essential starting items from a bunch of new players which would've stopped them from progressing on their island. This all goes against our code of conduct of:

and

Anyhow, I apologise for not directly addressing your question previously on "how many islands you've island farmed from" as it has taken quite some time to check logs and everything.

We had not checked every single dirt block you've mined as there were way too many dirt blocks involved. So solely from the destroying of sand and dirt from chests, there were just a bit over 20 islands involved. I hope this gives you a better picture of the extremity of your actions and I hope this also gives you an incentive to acknowledge that you have island farmed.

I'd also like to mention that an account under your IP was seen ban evading on the 25th of Jan: v7AinZ. Punishment evading also goes against our rules, thus it's been taken into consideration for this appeal. It seemed that you were aware of the rules too since you did report to me of a player who was illegally giving out dirt.

In your response, you must answer fully to everything. You should admit to breaking the rules and that you've tried to avoid the punishment by using a different account. You should also show you understand how your actions were wrong and hurtful to the server and other players. You must promise to not steal, island farm, or share illegally gotten items ever again.

 

Thank you for creating an appeal, but unfortunately your appeal has been denied.
We strongly recommend reading through this thread here for any future appeals!
Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.