Accepted [drskaM] Ban Appeal [franfiction]

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    • Punished account name: DrskaM
    • Platform or server punished on: Skyblock.net - Survival
    • Ban message if applicable: Reason: The Ban Hammer has spoken!
    • Have you read the rules? I have indeed read the rules.
    • Do you think this punishment was incorrect? Indubitably.
    • Why should you be unbanned? The ban was given without prior warning. Regardless of what Franfiction says, I was never warned by him that I was going to be ban for what? Talking about doing something that isn't even against the rules. Or stated directly in the Server Rules. Also on discord, I asked what the reasoning was which was disturbing the peace? Cause I asked a simple question of how long the ban would be? This is ridiculous.
    • Please list any other times you were punished on Skyblock: 2012 - typed "123" it auto-corrected to "123 skyblock.net is 123" and that resulted in a ban for advertising. 2013 - ban for duping rails. No further bans have been received.
    • If you know, tag the staff member that banned you: fran
    • Do you understand and accept our rules and code of conduct? I do indeed understand and accept your rules and code of conduct.
     
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    Hi, thanks for appealing.

    I'd like to start off by asking you a few things. Please take your time to answer in detail.
    • What led you to believe that egging another person's island, especially when you knew they were annoyed by it, was correct?
    Not only did you egg a person and told them to "chill" because it was "just a block game", but you also called them the n word. Regardless of the colour of your skin, I'm sure you knew this is not allowed in our server under any circumstances, as you went out of your way to make sure the filter couldn't catch it.
    • Why did you keep threatening this person throughout the day, announcing in chat that you would egg them again in a much bigger scale?
    You claim you "indubitably" know this ban was incorrect, yet once again you went out of your way to make it clear that you would add nametags to the chickens spawned from the 20 double chests of eggs so that "mods can't just clear entities", and once that player told you that you'd be banned for it you replied: "Ban me kid. It's a block game ion care".
    • Do you understand why it is essential to be honest in an appeal? As you stated above, I allegedly did not give you any warnings about not egging somebody's island neither did you know that what you did and were planning to do again was wrong as it was not against the rules. However, I took the time to talk to you and warn you that egging was illegal, to which you said: "I understand it's wrong but it's making Omar angry which brings me joy :p".
    You asked me how long a ban for egging would be. I explained that it would depend on the severity of the situation, but that it could even go up to a month. When you read this, you publicly stated "I can go without a block game for a month. I've been ban for half a year before 1 month ain't nothing". This shows that you a) do not have a clear understanding of the rules and b) you are not interested in following them.

    This kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
     
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    It's not letting me post my response.

    I will have to post it in separate posts

    Let me state clearly, I have no problem being ban and serving my punishment for something I have done. However, I haven't done anything. Let's open up the rule book.

    I'm assuming this is the rule you are masking my actions under. In that case, unless I am completely blind, and if so please forgive me. Now I've read this rule many times. Each time I have read this rule nowhere does it state that egging a player's island is against the rules. It doesn't even talk about entity spamming is against the rules. Nowhere in the rules does it talk about spawning entities or "egging" a player's island is against the rules. It does no harm. And the other reason you claim I was ban was threats.

    Now again, unless I'm blind and am not seeing where "threatening" to egg a player's island is against the rules then please forgive me. However, I've also read this rule multiple times and I can't seem to find where me threatening to egg a player's island constitutes as a threat. In this rule, it is stated that these threats that fall under this rule are doing, violent messages, or death threats. Which tossing a couple of eggs doesn't seem relevant or equivalent to what is stated in the rule on any degree.

    As for me antagonizing Omar. Yes if I were to do it ban me. If it constitutes breaking a rule. However, since I've gone through the rules with you I hope you can understand that what I'm doing is not stated as rule-breaking. Not even implied or hinted at.

    And for the whole saying what I said in chat I understand that was wrong it's part of my culture and I've served my punishment. Therefore, I wish not to speak about any irrelevant matters that don't pertain to the issue I'm discussing with you currently.
     
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    Now I was going a bit off-script here, but since you decided to open up the rule book let's take a look at it.

    As you can see in the first paragraph of the official Skyblock Server Rules located here, it says, and I quote: "As well as reading our server rules, we also ask that players familiarise themselves with our Code of Conduct here." Since you've read the rules, I'm sure you are quite familiar with them. After all, it's nothing less than the foundation of our community. Each section there is equally important, but I'd like to make emphasis on section 3, line 5.

    Egging islands without permission, as clearly stated on our Code of Conduct posted on September 11th, 2020 and unedited since, is in fact against our server rules.

    Now that we've got this out of the way, we shall continue.

    While it may not do any harm to you as you just find it silly considering it's "just a block game", it's not only against our server rules but it is also time consuming for the owner of the island and/or the staff members who have to use their time to deal with that situation. Not only that, but, as I've told you in game, a large number of entities create lag and affect everyone's gameplay.

    Lets remember the rule that should always be present in every situation: Common sense. Due to your interest in our server rules, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that it is stated in section 2 of our Code of Conduct located here (which is mandatory to read and especially before creating an appeal). It says:

    While it doesn't explicitly state that "threatening to egg a user's island again but this time with 20 dcs of eggs and 1 dc of nametags so that mods can't clear entities" falls under this rule, I think we both know that it isn't the right thing to do.

    Now that I've cleared things up, I will have to ask you again to not only reply to these specific comments ^^ but also give a detailed answer to the questions asked in my original response. Failure to do so will result in this appeal being denied.
     
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    Well, as much as I hate to say it I do apologize. Back when I used to play all the time being 2012-2015. There was no code of conduct. It was just the server rules. So I apologize for not being familiar with said constructs. So let's get back on script.
    • What led you to believe that egging another person's island, especially when you knew they were annoyed by it, was correct? I hear about it all the time in chat from other players and I just saw it as a bit of friendly banter. No harm no foul, it may be time-consuming but I did inform Omar that if he would've asked I would've helped or gotten rid of them completely by myself.
    • Why did you keep threatening this person throughout the day, announcing in chat that you would egg them again on a much bigger scale? My statement still stands on what I said previously, this does not constitute as a threat.
    • Do you understand why it is essential, to be honest in an appeal? I feel I have been as honest as I can be. But if you want me to be completely honest. This whole thing started because I asked who sold eggs cause I wanted to make a chicken farm. It takes multiple eggs to sometimes even get one chicken so I asked who sells lots of eggs. Please in the chat then said, "Cause that's not suspicious at all." And I said well I'm making a chicken farm. Then Omar said in chat that I was going to egg him. His island always gets egged not by me. I would like to make this specifically clear. I am not the only one who egged his island there are other people and the whole reason I egged him last night is because he keeps blaming me for something I never did. But yeah this has been taken out of context and since Omar wanted attention, I fed into it so that he would have something to cry about cause he always wants a problem by antagonizing me on different degrees of severity.



     
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    Yo dog, if you're not going to respond feel free to close this.
     
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    Yo dog, I've been feeling extremely sick for the past few days and my eyes could really use a rest. If you're not going to be patient feel free to tell me and I'll deny the appeal.
     
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    You probably hear about it all the time because it's currently a big problem of the server. While it might not be a big deal to you, I'm sure you can understand how annoying it can be overtime for not only those who get egged, but for those staff members who have to deal with these situations almost every day, and sometimes multiple times per day.

    How exactly is telling someone to watch out because "something big is coming" and publicly stating multiple times that you're coming for them with 20 dcs of eggs and 1 dc of nametags not a threat? I understand that you might think that there are more severe things to worry about in life and that this is just a 'block game', but if you're not willing to follow the rules then this just might not be the right server for you.

    Blaming this on Omar is not the right approach here. I understand that you might have your problems with him (which you are more than welcome to report to me or anyone on the team) but that does not excuse your actions
     
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    Yo dog, hope you're feeling better. I hope you don't have the rona virus. That'd be terrible. Anyways, this entire thing was a joke there were no dc's of eggs, no dc of nametags. Nothing. It was an empty threat to scare Omar. And if you think that is wrong oh well. Omar and I are good and have had no problems up until this point. So I will not take your suggestion in reporting him.
     
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    If you’re being sincere, thank you : )

    I can take a joke. The problem is that I don’t know if it was clear to the other party that it was a joke, because they were the one who asked me to look into it as they thought that you were really serious about it. I know that everyone has a different sense of humor, but sometimes it’s hard to tell sarcasm over the Internet

    In order to stay out of situations like this in the future, please don’t send empty threats to others (even as a joke) or make sure they understand you are not being serious
     
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    I was being serious I don't like seeing fellow Skyblockers not feeling well. Yeah, I get that jokes are hard to be perceived especially in this day and age and also especially over the internet. I figured that he was aware it was a joke because one throwing like 1 dc of eggs took forever so I wouldn't even attempt to throw 20 dc's of eggs I have better things to do.
     
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    I understand. You seem like a genuinely good guy and I respect that. I trust that if you tell me that you’re going to re-read the rules and the Code of Conduct and do your best to follow them, you actually will do it. If you’re willing to do that, I’ll unban you as soon as you reply
     
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    I can give you my full reassurance that I will re-read the rules and code of conduct for the server. And I will do my best to follow them to the best of my ability. I would also like to apologize for my foolish and childish actions even if I thought it was all in good fun.
     
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    Thank you for creating an appeal, your appeal has been accepted!
    Please make sure that you read our rules here before continuing on as normal!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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