Mob Arena Grass Nerf, The Failcascading Economy, and You

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Should the Mob Arena grassblock give rate be increased (with proper adjustments based on activity)?

  1. Yes, they should raise the give/reward rate for grassblock, taking activity into account

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  2. Yes they should just raise the give/reward rate for grassblock for everybody

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  3. No, keep it as it is now (and let the economy failcascade even further)

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  1. Krissy
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    Krissy Stray Kids everywhere all around the world Administrator Discord Administrator Premium Premium

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    I agree with you, currency that important cant be a luxury. And the new, harder mob arena is in such a way that there are people less likely to afk, the rewards should go back to normal. I have lots of stacks of iron and grass which i consider myself lucky.
    BUT PUT GRASS BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS!
    because everyone (majority) is suffering. I've said this b4, but grass is also a building block, used to get dirt without island farming. Grass is also currency. grass becoming scarce is a bad idea. really bad. atm no one will trade diamonds with iron or grass. diamond pile up is not a worry since diamonds change value slightly they are still highly demanded thus no matter how many enter the server the price tends to stay relativity the same.
    I will say this once: everyones learnt from this, afk rarely occurs, cheating is rare, can we please just get grass back in MA now?
     
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    Grass is currently still in the Arena, I've been told, it's just a very rare commodity. I don't necessarily agree that the arena should be restored to its original state, as there was a reason for the revamp originally, and with the huge influx of new players, AFK and cheating is going to return once the arena goes back to its old state. However, some sort of reconsideration of the reward output has to be done, and grass has to be accessible some other way.
     
  3. Krissy
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    I meant back to normal my bad xD and it wont since all the cheat mechanisms have been sorted, the only fear now is hackers
     
  4. AUSTINCRAFT20
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    Krissy i agree with u 100%. I also think the mob arena should have better rewards like it used to have. Non-donors loved going there to get items. Now i have seen a dramatic decrease of people going to MA. I believe this is because the bad items you would get surviving even 30 rounds.I agree that the economy can fall on the server so i'm willing to help you!
     
  5. Krissy
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    theres no incentive, and now its not even fun anymore since its pretty much empty. thanks, i think most people are feeling the downfall comming
     
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    very true!! we had this contest to build a bigger more spacious arena (and the winner did a great job)to hold more contestants and yet now there's no prize worthy of entering and spening that much time for. i have been in there 3 times since the new areana. first day was packed. now your lucky to have 5 people per game in there its sad.
     
  7. Krissy
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    Im starting to realise that mostly donors are having fun... i wonder why...
    *cough*grassinkit*cough*diamondarmour*cough*cutepets*cough
     
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    Then again, you don't want grass to devalue so much that it becomes worthless. This is probably the reason why they have decreased reward chances for grass in the Mob Arena
     
  9. Krissy
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    Now that the new arena is in play, and its shown a dramatic change in afk behaviours, people who actually survive will be getting rewarded with grass. It will to change that value of grass if it goes back to the way it was (unless you count the fact grass will revert to original cost b4 the nerf)
     
  10. Zedrich
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    Grass will NEVER become 'worthless' because it acts both as 'currency' and as a 'consumable item' i.e. island dirt so this is a moot point.

    The standard exchange prices before the nerf were more or less the following:

    1 stack (64 pcs.) Cobblestone ~= 1 Grassblock
    1 stack (64 pcs.) Grassblock ~= 1 Diamond ~= 1 Double Chest of Cobble/Stone Stacks ( 9x6 = 54 stacks )
    1 Iron Ingot ~= 2 Grass Blocks
    1 Gold Ingot ~= 1 Grassblock
    1 Mobspawner ~=3 Diamonds or 3 stacks of grassblock

    Cobble, Stone, Wood and other low value miscellaneous item sales have become nonviable or unprofitable with the exception of the occasional rush Want-To-Buy inquiry, and even then we get lowballed with god enchanted random items, other similar low-value items, etc.

    On another note, I did have a few runs in the new and redesigned Mob Arena, surviving past the creeper waves, and yet, still no grass - and this is with an iron ingot or two. This has to be fixed, somehow.
     
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    im curious. if a person were to play the mob arena to level 100. what would be the payout. and i dont know if it still does or not but i saw it used to say recived air blocks. in mcedit air is just one above grass blocks i belive. if this is the case in the rewards selection for the mob arena plugin as well perhaps air was supposed to be grass!?!?!:eek:
     
  12. Zedrich
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    Sadly, with the current lacking participation or utilization of the mob arena, no one ever manages to even make it to waves 15-20. I have tried several times, but have never gone far enough to see any grass at all.

    [oracle]
    I have bought a mobspawner with a stack of grass.
    I have sold six stacks of grass for 18 diamonds.
    I told you all that this was going to happen, and it did..
    [/oracle]
     
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    I want to go to ma and use /god to test rewards but people would not appreciate me doing so ;)
     
  14. Creepersteam
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    I really don't need to worry about grass, since now, I got 3 diamonds (from FromLegoUniverse)(won them from a competition for who finds him stalking us and I got first :))), gold armor and ingots, and iron ingots in .net. Lots of grass right there :)) (sorry if I bragged)
     
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    Yeah i too am able to live without grass in ma because of my kit. I no longer need to trade grass for diamonds. But unfortunately others are not so lucky and its i feel bad that they do not have a source to get grass. I was once going to MA 4-8 times to get grass. I know how it felt to need grass so i could get diamonds. So this is why im so passionate to get grass back the way it was for non donors especially.
     
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    On.net, I'm a plain old noob, but in .org, I don't really need to depend on anything: I got lucky with donor on there.
     
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