It's not a big deal if we have to smelt it and it means we can actually use ancient debris as decoration blocks if we wanted.

EDIT: And as Silvia reminded me, it would allow players to get another advancement!

 

Second this!

 

I do believe that it should be changed not for the same reason but more for the achievement
But also I do think it should stay how it is as some people have 1 ancient debris and it's considered a rare item/ unobtainable because updates

 

Why not both? Support

 

Oh yes, the advancement! Thank you for reminding me!
As cool as illegals like that are, I do think it's a small price to pay.

 

I don't think the trader should be selling ancient debris. They already sell scraps and crates already have Ingots, there's no need for enchant debris if the reason is to smelt it. Scrap is easy enough to come by if you ask the hoarders politely for one.

However, I would support the idea of being able to mine ancient debris in the nether itself (maybe with low drop rates like glowstone) if its used for decorative blocks, and smelting is disabled. Ancient debris would be far too easily farmed by finding out the nether seed each month, farming them then smelting it would give certain players an op advantage.

 

That sounds like a hard ask as opposed to just having the WT sell ancient debris.

 

i feel like adding more to the server with custom plugins is a much bigger ask than something that would take 2 lines of code to change
also having a lowerd drop rate on something that is already a little hard to find would mean it would turn alot of people off from finding and building with it

 

I don't think trader should sell the block itself. They already sell scraps cheap enough and Ingots can be won in crates. I dont think you should be able to craft scrap from ancient debris partly for this reason. However If you want ancient debris for building and decoration blocks, then it can be a farmable one. That way every player gets a chance to find the blocks should they wish. The trader is already too limiting when it comes to selling items valued as rares, and scraps are already accesable to buy and trade.

 

it is only a small ask to change the scrap to ancient debris tho not adding a whole new thing for the trader to sell just a 2 line code of changing it from 1 item to another

 

Netherite is already too involved in the economy of both servers(and its even a reward from crates) so I very doubt they will ever change this. Ancient debris on the other hand is unobtainable( was only obtainable from an oversight from what I was told so its super hyper rare, hence some people might oppose this xD), this would only get us a new block to build with, though VERYYYYY EXPENSIVE lol. I'm so up for this, thank you space and silvia for this amazing idea

 

r̶a̶r̶e̶s̶ ---> illegals

As a non-ancient debris owner, self interest tells me I should support this, but I also acknowledge that this would be terrible for the select few who have paid through the nose to get an ancient debris.

I think unless the price point were lower than the price of netherite scrap and the debris block awarded significant levels, this would be a minimally impactful change when considering the server as a whole. I would compare this to swapping guardian eggs for guardian spawners in the legendary crate; it impacted people who owned guardian eggs at the time (positively), but in the long run it did not particularly bring sweeping changes to the economy as a whole.

 

The suggestion is jut to replace the trade with the debris. Once you have the debris, you can get scrap from it, or just keep the debris. 2 items for the price of one if you will!

 

So why not just allow it to be mined in the nether? I don't see the need for a 3rd way to get scrap when it already works how it is. But going by the suggestion of allowing ancient debris for decorative purposes, that would make more sense. You'd get the block nining it freely, which anyone can mine, not limiting it to only a select few that are able to obtain through the trader. There could then be a market for selling ancient debris for decorating.

 

I'd like to change my answer to wanting trader to carry BOTH ancient debris as well as scrap, but maintain the inability to smelt the debris into scrap so it is a purely decorative block.

This is because if scrap is replaced with a different item, which people may choose NOT to smelt, scrap prices will be even more insane than they are now.

I agree it should still be unobtainable via the nether, to prevent players using various methods to farm the nether dry at the reset of every month.

 

But isn't that the point? It's a fairly common block only made rare by the fact scrap is only sold from traders. If its to be used as a decoration block, then being able to naturally mine it in the nether for that purpose makes sense. Just like gilded Blackstone from nether fortresses etc. It shouldn't be added if it's only to become another rare and method to get scrap. People will hoard them all and hike up the prices to insane amounts. Restricting other players from using a naturally found block for decoration. For sure add it to trader if smelting is disabled AND it can be mined in the nether like every other block, but not added at the price of scraps or stupid like that. Match it with gilded Blackstone prices if anything. And it then gives players another reason to use the nether.

 

I do not believe Ancient Debris and Netherite should be treated as two different kinds of blocks, as that's not how minecraft normally is, and would be unintuitive.
One of SB's main "selling-points" is that it doesn't change too much of Minecraft. Which is also why I believe why we should have a way to get ancient debris.
+1 for buying ancient debris from wandering trader.