My suggestion is this, with pride being a globally celebrated day all around the world, and many pride themed events happening everywhere, could we have an international pride day 28th June gift / craftable?

There aren't many events on skyblock from Easter to Halloween, so this could be one way to celebrate pride across the skyblock server for thone that want to.

The craft able could be a potion with a pride flag texture, and the gift could be a rainbow themed grass block head, or something themed similar. Those are my ideas, but I'm sure others will have better ones.

I think it would be great for a pride month/day themed reward in game, many of the players here are supporters of lgbt+ and it would be a way of showing respect and compassion during pride

Below are just a couple google images on what items they could be

Craftable potion

Gift Pride Themed Grass Block

Possible idea, allow us to craft our own pride flag themed playerhead/rare item using colour carpets to set the flag type (though this would probably not work well in skyblock idk)

 

STRONG SUPPORT. We celebrate Pride with map art across the server, and Abbie's absolutely right about there being a dearth of events between Easter and Halloween. It's a long stretch. Why not let us celebrate with some collectibles and craftables?

Plus if I can craft some kind of rainbow block, I will be the happiest player on eco, since my entire island theme is "a unicorn vomited rainbows absolutely everywhere here."

 

i like the potion but is it actually possible to do that in mc?

 

The potion is great, but what economic value would it bring? I respect people's views on pride (I support it personally), but pride isn't celebrated in every part of the world and with the current climate, there's a lot of hatred for pride and how quickly things can turn the opposite direction. Also, pride focuses about loving the same sex, wouldn't valentines day be that? Since it is about love, regardless of sex. We have limited special items for valentines day as well. Maybe we can add the potions to one of the limited gifts you can claim on valentines day? That's just me though. Feel free to leave your thoughts on this

 

Neither is the US' independence day or Dt Patrick's Day.

The entire reason pride has to exist is because people don't like they exist.

Its not without a custom resource pack, and the entire draw of the server is that its as vanilla as possible in its items.

 

This question could be asked of 100% of the server's rare, collectibles, /gifts, drop party heads, special craftables, etc.

 

It could be a custom datapack/texture pack like theyve done with love potions in the past

You kinda answered your own question, it would show respect for the members that are supporters or part of lgbt+ themselves. Whilst being a new collectible thened after a globally supported event. People who identify within the lgbt movement recieve a lot of negativity from everyday life, so having a way to celebrate pride within the server is a great way to involve those who'd usually recieve backlash or discrimination and exclusion from the community.

Pride is a celebrated day across the globe, it isn't just for one country, or for one specific group of people, anyone can be a supporter of pride but not class themselves as part of it. Pride is celebrated to promote the constant fight for equality in this community, for those that are outcasted and discriminated against by their own community for who they love or how they present.

Comparing to other events such as Americas independence day, or Irish day, those are more specifically catered to one country or group. Whereas the Lgbt support is spread further across the globe.

Whilst I agree that people like to keep things as close to vanilla as possible, items such as indi picks, love potions, valentines and anniversary and indi rockets, all exist. Adding a potions with a rainbow texture and calling it a pride potion or something wouldn't be any different to the valentines love potions in terms of being a non vanilla rare introduced.

And at the end of the day, if you dont support the pride movement, you don't have to collect the rares for it.

I'm not Irish, I don't support Irish St Patrick's day, but I still support the idea of others being able to celebrate it. Much like with Americas independence day, it's not something as a native of England, that I'd support. But it's still cool having the option to.

 

Love potions were not a custom texture and I am extremely confident not a datapack.

 

I hope to answer this without offending anyone and I hope nobody takes personal offence with my reply. I firmly believe that everyone has the right to be who they want to be without the ability of being criticized for their identity or who they choose to love, and they should not have to go through hate or feel invalidated for their feelings. I also hope that any discussion on this thread that may not support the original suggestion is not labelled as homophobic or transphobic as I believe everyone has a different point of view on this topic and that it should be respected.

In contrast to Easter and Christmas (often denoted as religious holidays celebrating the resurrection and birth of Jesus Christ, respectfully), Halloween, and other days such as St. Patrick's Day, Chinese New Year, Valentine's Day, Independence Day (which is not as political as it solely celebrates the day America gained its independence and became a country), and other celebrations that have already been celebrated on Skyblock, are carefully celebrated events that do not involve any political viewpoint. A lot of the events that are celebrated are deeply rooted in culture and historical beliefs, but are now celebrated for more broader meanings; such as Christmas is celebrated to get together with family and exchange gifts, Halloween is a day that involves trick or treating and dressing up, St. Patrick's Day is often celebrated by having parties, Chinese New Year is an auspicious event for the Chinese community involving money exchanging and large festivals, as well as celebrating new beginnings, and Independence Day includes fireworks and BBQs. With this, my point is that these events, with mainly the exception of Chinese New Year, have now become consumerist holidays which is why I believe Skyblock celebrates and acknowledges them. And this is not shade or a problem as many games including Fortnite, Roblox, and even other Minecraft servers celebrate these events as well and personally cater their server and aspects to celebrate them with things such as different lobbies, new events and even new collectibles.

When it comes to the discussion of pride month and pride day which celebrate the rights of gay people and acknowledge the hatred and struggles of the LGBTQ+ community, it rises a climate of tension. This is unfortunate and a true issue which leads me to believe that the suggestion isn't as necessary to implement.

It is not unknown to most of us that countries around the world, including the United States, have introduced bills and laws that go against the LGBTQ+ community, including Utah which banned pride flags to be hung in government buildings, and even other states that are attacking gender affirming care. There are many other examples that I can include to highlight the political ties to sexuality and gender. The reason for me to bring this up is because it opens up a discussion most people are not comfortable talking about. While the server does cater to a mature group of people, the game Minecraft and aspects of Skyblock cater to a younger group as well and I do not think it is necessary to tie politics into the server. Parents do not expect their children to be involved in political issues and I think it's important to understand that these topics are sensitive in discussion to most families, so it may not be the best way for children to learn about sexuality and gender identities via a block game.

Overall, my point is that while this is a good suggestion as it helps to celebrate the LGBTQ+ community, there are certain political issues that are definite to arise with the implementation of the suggestion that I feel are unneeded. While the world is becoming more progressive and accepting of the community and celebrating love and identity, the current community that Skyblock caters to, which includes younger children that may not have a full understanding of the topic, and the political ties that are unfortunately related to the community may introduce more problems than wanted.

*I hope no one feels offended with my response as that is not my intention, but rather share my point of view which you are more than welcome to disagree with and that is totally okay.

 

That is inherently political.

Why does the server change its discord icon for Pride then?

How is "gay & trans people exist" a sensitive topic? If parents are that sensitive, they'd already be patrolling that their child does on the internet.

I personally don't think adding custom items or large amounts of custom textures is the right way to go about celebrating pride, and the rainbow washing of the discord icon is realistically sufficient for Pride imo

 

Inherently but now a consumerist holiday which I state in the same paragraph.

Which I also haven't seen in a while if I recall correctly. The last full acknowledgement being in 2020.

It's not about the fact that they exist that is sensitive. But their challenges, struggles, marginalization, hate speech, trauma, abuse, and the constant discrimination they face which pride month acknowledges that is sensitive. This is just my opinion on the topic.

Discord is also 13+ and Minecraft does not have any specific age requirements. In my opinion, 13+ years old children have more sense of maturity than other younger kids (for the most part).

I also agree with this. I don't think a head or rainbow item does enough justice towards the acknowledgment of the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community and celebrating their resilience towards the discrimination they face.

 

Perhaps not, but surely it's better than doing nothing at all?

 

We do have a rainbow egg that's essentially just a rainbow head from Easter 2021

 

I honestly think this is a great idea . If this gets implemented, some people who strongly disapprove of the LGBT+ community will probably leave the server. This creates a safer space for LGBT+ individuals like me! I don't know if the homophobes in this server will get triggered enough to leave but, from what I've seen, homophobes get triggered pretty easily by this type of stuff. Anyways, thats what I've been thinking about this.

 

Isn't the server already a safe space? I dont know about you, but I haven't heard of many issues regarding homophobia or xenophobia being a rampant issue. Also the homophobes you describe would still continue to play, just talk behind your back (speaking from what I've seen)

By your logic we should include every single holiday celebrated by different ethnic groups to honor them? You don't see the server adding heads for Diwali, Ramadan, and Hannukah? (I mean I would like that tbh)

 

Asking people to leave the server in the name of “inclusivity” is the total opposite of inclusivity lmao

So basically what you’ve just said is you believe people who don’t agree with you should be excluded from the server… mature


No support

 

I mean, yeah! Let's do it hahah, more inclusively is better lol

Going by that logic, it would make more sense to allow those holidays more than Irish day and independence day.

The server has embers from all over the world, from all different backgrounds and heritages.

To me, saying that pride shouldn't be supported because it's not a world wide political event sounds silly? I'm not Irish. So I don't celebrate St. Patrick's day. Not american so celebrating independence day makes no sense to me. Those events only cater to a select criteria of players, yet the entire server still celebrates the Evans as a whole.

This logic ahould also include England's St. Georges day, which has every relevance to UK players, as independence day does for the us players.

Pride however, IS celebrated by almost every country across the world. Its about inclusively for those that would usually recive backlash and outbursts of anger just for simply being themselves. Showing support for Pride within skyblock, which is a community well known for being a safe and welcoming space for any and all lgbt members and supporters would be a great way to show that inclusively.

I agree that a player head itself may not be the way as they get flooded within the drophead market, but a special potion or craftable item for those that want to celebrate pride would be cool.

In my opinion, the fact that there already is backlash , and comparisons of supporting pride being met the same as an irl situation in a war-ing country,, shows that there is still need for pride to be supported within the community. Having so much distate or dislike over lgbt members can be very toxic and harmful. A lot of players and people have to hide who they are in fear of reciving this treatment from those that get hurt over how other people live their lives.


My question would be this to the no supporters:

What do you have to gain, by disallowing a pride celebration within Skyblock? Those that wish to celebrate it could, and recive low value rare crafts that can help include them within our loving and caring community. Those that don't celebrate pride, or are not a supporter of people that do, can simply play as if it's any other day, and choose not to make or take the rewards. It would literally be no different to the non Irish choosing not to celebrate on St patts day.

Allowing pride people to celebrate one day of an entire year of having no hate. No discrimination, can mean the world to them.

 

LGBTQ people have a month to celebrate, and they can celebrate at any time as far as I’m concerned. I’m happy for them, as everyone should be, if they’ve found their way of life and are happy with how things are.

That being said, there is no need for these kinds of topics to be recognised one way or another on the server. Whether you support the movement or not, sensitive/political matters with a range of opinions should be kept away from a neutral server welcoming of all. Wanna host your own celebration? Go ahead! I’d be happy. But no need for the server itself to get involved. That’s true inclusivity.

 

I agree with this quote from Boba as well.

As someone who is a part of the community, it would be super neat to see something like this implemented. However, I think this thread shows why staff might be worried about implementing something like this. Like with my first quote, I think it should be left to the player base to celebrate, because unfortunately, LGBT+ and Pride Month are still considered political topics. I remain neutral on this

 

I too don't think any collectibles should be added in a way of celebrating pride month. I'd much rather have a little community event being officially hosted rather than have these insignificant collectibles to celebrate the grand cause that pride should be.