Global Be Able to Place Heads & Not Lose Name/Lore

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  1. MorayEel
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    It'd be nice if there was a plugin that allows players to place heads without having them lose the colored name/item description. Players fall victim to this every drop party and the heads basically lose all of their ingame value when placed.
     
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    i think it’s a cool idea but I think part of the value and rarity behind heads is them being able to lose the lores
     
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    nah i just think it’s apart of the game that can’t be touched.

    such is life
     
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    Exactly
     
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    As much as I am upset about my head and other heads from players being placed in the past, some people do have a point. Placing the heads is something that does alter these rarities and does create these prices, but yea I do agreed it does suck placing something rare and then it having a non-existent value. Im going to have to go neutral on this for now. If this suggestion was implemented, all placed heads would have to have this change also.
     
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    Kinda like living on the edge praying it doesn’t place by accident while opening a chest because you forget to switch slots

    plus if it is added now people are going to be pissed that they can’t get the heads they placed from years ago lore back because they would be worth a fortune

    And then you can only rely on when people void them when they get upset or something need higher chances of rarity :weary:
     
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    Full support for this actually. I genuinely think it’s silly for the same item to have wildly different values if someone accidentally misses an item frame or erroneously right clicks.

    To respond to a few comments:
    • “People can still lose them”
      • Yes. The void does exist and they could be lost forever. I feel like it’s a lot harder to accidentally drop a head into the void tho.
    • “Unfair to past players”
      • The current system sucks for current players. Just because older players have dealt with this doesn’t mean future players should have to.
    The current way heads work is like a weird, arbitrary, unintuitive punishment that you wouldn’t know was a thing until after testing it yourself or being told. Arbitrary and unintuitive punishments should be minimized. Also heads just look better placed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    no support, they are collectibles and them being fragile is one of the things rising the value over time, its not like comic books are inmune to damage or videogames are worth the same unsealed, playing with the value of this kind of items is also very dangerous because rares are one of the main reasons the economy works.

    also i place heads for fun and wouldnt do it if they kept the lore, decoration is one of the little uses you can give to this items for fun aside from hoarding and if they didnt lose the lore that decoration would be much more common decreasing the appeal, it would just be storage, when you look at a skelly head you dont think "oh thats cool" bc the owner didnt lost anything.

    Also aside from accidental placing who really would want this, i dont think having to be carefull with fragile collectible items is a good reason for an update, more when that fragility has a direct relation to a market thats essential for the servers economy.
     
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    While I see your POV, I feel as if you have a rare item and your first instinct is "let me place it", thats a bit on the player at that point. While it sucks, could you imagine babying every little thing? If it's done for heads, then it will eventually be done for everything else, then everything will become dirt cheap because theres none going out of circulation at that point.
     
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    soon they might allow players to silk touch spawners :bitenails:
     
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    I’m neutral.
    The part of skyblock I think we need to reinforce is the idea that you are mostly responsible for your items and island. The survival game mode should reflect much of what happens on the server. While there are safeguards in place majority of the time you need to take care of what you do with items.
    But I think we also have to decide if we take away people’s choice to place their heads to remove the lore purposely and if everyone is okay with that.

    If the prices of placed vs unplaced heads was similar then we could have someone with perms “re-lore” or swap heads if an accident occurs. This would be as simple as making additional heads that staff could access to facilitate this.

    There might be a good solution that can give people flexibility on how to achieve the idea without upsetting one party
     
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    For those that are new to festive heads and don't know about the value of the name and lore it'll be quite intuitive to just right-click one down without thinking about it. So one thing is to prevent placement from the right-hand slot but still let them place with the less intuitive left-hand.
     
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    I think a potential solution would be to make it so that if heads are picked up with silk touch, they'll retain their original info. If broken without silktouch, they'll lose it. I guess just similar to how spawners work lol
     
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    The only thing to consider is what does this do for prices and trading and they it’s a good viable solution
     
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    Part of the main thing about these items is how rare they are and that you have to treat them differently to keep their rarity and value. I think that, instead of them keeping their name and lore when placed, you should look more into a new way of displaying them and have their name and lore be visible while you hover over them or look at them
     
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