Accepted Ban appeal.[Accepted]

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  1. HannahPrentis
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    Hello, my IGN is novamars and I am sorry for excessively dirt farming. I did not read the rules properly, which is my fault and I am sorry. I have been on this server for a long time and have not been banned, this is my first ban.
    I am sorry and it will not happen again.
    Kind regards,
    Hannah.
     
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    Hello,
    Please fill out our format attached below.
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    1. Your banned account name:
    2. Platform you were banned on:
    3. Ban message/reason:
    4. Have you read the rules?
    5. Do you think this ban was incorrect?
    6. Please list any other times you have been banned on any of our platforms:
    7. Why would you like to be unbanned?
    8. How will you prevent yourself from being banned again?
    9. If you know, tag the member of staff that banned you:
    10. Do you understand and accept our rules?
     
  3. HannahPrentis
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    1. Novamars
    2. PC (I think, I'm not too sure what that means) or skyblock?
    3. Ridiculous amount of dirt farming.
    4. Yes, however that what a long time ago when I first started using this server.
    5. No, it was correct to do so. After re-reading the rules I remember that it is wrong and I am sorry for that.
    6. I have not been banned before.
    7. I am in the middle of a lockdown and this is the only server I play on. I honestly play on this server for around 12 hours a day.
    8. Following the rules and to keep updating myself on the rules, therefore I will not forget them.
    9. Cyk753
    10. I do indeed.
     
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    I am still accounting for the thousands of dirt blocks, buckets, and sand blocks you illegally obtained. And this is for activity about two weeks before I banned you.

    To be honest, it is going to take a while to come up with a proper response and fair response to your activities.
     
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    Yeah I understand that, because I broke the rules. I have also obtained dirt, sand and buckets from the years I have been on the server. Most of the blocks fell out the island or was taken by the entity clear thing and I didn't take the resources in the chest; all I wanted was the blocks.
    So you will not be able to get thousands of resources because I do not have all of that. Sorry about what I did, but most the resources I wanted, I did not get because of the reasons I have just stated.
    Thanks for updating me though. All I wanted was to be updated in the matter.
    Sorry.
    Kind regards,
    Hannah.
     
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    If it is any help, the dirt blocks have already been used on the island and the sand was used when making the concrete. So just destroy the whole island and obtain the illegal products.

    Sincerely,
    Hannah.
     
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    Also, why have other players with the same ban reason already been appealed? And yet I am still waiting for information?
     
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    And to be honest, everyone else who files for a ban appeal has actual regular contact with the moderator that banned them, however I must be the unlucky one; you've messaged me once with a vague paragraph of information. I've already explained what has happened, in which you then automatically assumed I illegally obtained thousands of items. Although I did not, because of the reasons I have already explained.
    The other players that have been banned for the exact same reason have been in contact with their moderator and their ban has been appealed. More quickly than me, may I add. Is that my 'fair response'? Being treated differently by other players because I have a different moderator whom rarely comes online. Which I know because of the facts that you do not update or message me and I keep this tab open in the background for a majority of the day. Because I hope that you message me back to update me on my situation, or to update me on what you are thinking of doing during my ban (in regards to myself).
    I have already stated that I am sorry, this is my first time 'offense' to the server. So surely that should make you recognise that it was a one time thing. I could even say that if I did it again I would be happy to be permanently banned from the server, because that is what happens in the real world. For instance, small, low level first time offenses often go with a warning and if performed again, then there would be a permanent and/ or more harsh disciplinary action would be taken.
    I am obviously not going to do it again; I do not want to get permanently removed from this server.
    Not like you are going to see any of this because you do not respond to a majority of my messages, however I am sorry and it will not happen again, obviously.
     
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    It took forever to take a proper account all the thousands of illegally obtained items. I didn't assume. I checked game logs and had them verified by other staff members.


    You ran the /ni replace command 120 times from just April 9th to April 26th.


    Other players have not farmed nearly as many items as you have. I have been the most active staff member since late March of this year. It took me forever to count all the blocks you farmed. Yes, I have been helping and banning other players while also quadruple checking the logs I took about you.


    120 new island restarts in about a 2 week period of time does not count as first time offense. Maybe it's just the first time you were caught. This is no way as innocent as other players' first infractions. That is why a staff member higher than me decided on the month long ban.


    Your "first time offense" consists of farming (as best as I can tell) approximately 7273 dirt blocks, 260 sand blocks, and 90 buckets. This is not including all the raided items from PrenniePlay's island that you also used to store your illegally gotten items. This is NOT a "low level" first offense. I may quote you down the road on your willingness to be perm banned.

    It is no way obvious that you are not going to do this again. You have lied about your activities and you think it is a small error on your judgement. I repeat, this is huge deal. Because you said you island farmed over the years, the staff team decided to remove ALL the illegal blocks.

    You're light attitude about the situation does not reflect how big of a rule break your actions really were. You spent hours a day island farming. If you ever break this rule again, I hope you realize your punishment will be even more severe. My hope is that you think over how you abused the server mechanism and how your actions are completely unfair to everyone else who plays Skyblock legitimately.

    Rules are here so people play the game as intended, that is, one island worth of dirt until they earn grass blocks. Players should not be cheating nor cheating this badly.

    If you can show you are truly remorseful of your actions, we will considering ending your ban early.
     
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    How can I show that I am 'truly remorseful' when you are saying I am lying? I also never stated it was a small error, that statement you made up thinking that is what I said. In addition, I have not been island farming in the past; when I would restart my island because I got bored of the theme and wanted a new look to my island I would restart. However, because my brother had me on his island (prennieplays), he said I could keep my dirt and sand on his island, in which I did because that was not specified in the rules that I couldn't keep my old stuff from my island? I also never said I didn't use the command /ni replace . I said I didn't obtain every single item from those resets. I have never lied about my actions and I took them into account as big, however I did say it was my first time offence of being banned. I have never actually done island farming repeatedly before, in which I said and was true, but then you go and call me a liar? You can read logs, I already said I island farmed, however I didn't receive every single block and I didn't obtain every single item in the chests. My brother has been collecting blocks for years too, he has now been offline for I guess 2 years. I haven't really counted. And he said I could use his blocks, hence why I have many. People island farm all the time, I went to an island for a trade shop and there must have been quadruple amounts of dirt than I have, so how do you expect he got all that?
    I have never once lied about my actions. I have stated I island farmed. I have stated I didn't obtain every single block and item from the chest. I have stated that I know I did wrong.
    I never stated I island farmed over the years, I said I have kept dirt and sand from the previous islands when I restarted my themes for the island. I also never stated that I thought it was a minor error; I said that it was a first time offence.
    Why on earth would I lie to a person who has higher authority and who can check to see whether what I am saying is correct? That is honestly stupid if I did. But I didn't.
    And yes is it obvious, for the amount of time and effort I put in to doing what I did, you'd think I'm dedicated to playing on the server, however a big mistake was made but that was so I could create a big island and be proud of myself. Cannot be proud because I broke the rules in which I know now. Furthermore, I have played this server and the now 'veterans' server for many, many years, I would say around 5 or 6 years (not too sure because I haven't crossed off the years I have played this server). I also do not like any other servers because I know how this one works and I don't like sudden changes like new servers that I don't know how to use. Therefore, it is actually easy to say I don't want to get permanently banned from this server because I would have no server to play Minecraft on.
    Correct me if my opinions and facts are wrong.
    Also sorry the paragraph is so big, I tried replying to all of your statements.
     
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    I tell you what, just keep me banned for the whole month. I know I deserve it, I just didn't like the fact of me not playing on the server during the most boring days of my life, stuck at home during lockdown because of a pandemic. Oh well. Lesson learnt. Keep me banned for the remainder of the month. Deny my appeal. And I will get on with my life.
     
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    I still believe everything I said in that large paragraph, but I am probably stopping you from enjoying the server too and I cannot be bothered to fight with a stranger any longer. I deserve the ban because I broke a rule. Therefore, you should deny my appeal and keep me banned for the remainder of my ban. Its fair on everyone else, so thanks. And goodbye.
     
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    Removing dirt from your old island, restarting it, and then reusing your old dirt along with the new dirt is the exact definition of island farming. What you described as your past actions is definitely island farming. If another person breaks the rule on island farming, that does not excuse you from island farming. The server rules apply to everyone.

    I would like for you to try to understand this point. If you do not, you may ask for questions.
     
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    Oh I thought island farming was when you restarted your island for the purpose of collecting more items, I did not actually know that keeping your stuff after you restart your island (when you are not restarting for the resources) was illegal. I misunderstood the rules I guess.
     
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    Keeping your other items like wood logs, cobble, food, terracotta, wool, etc. after a restart is perfectly allowed. The main purpose of the rule is to stop players from restarting islands just to collect on items only found on new islands, which are dirt and buckets. There was rule change to allow players to sell sand to each other even though sand is also found on new island, yet, players should not restart islands to collect the sand. That counts as island farming.
     
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    So restarting your island to try a new build is ok. Keeping building materials or tools from your previous island is ok.

    Restarting an island to build up your collection of dirt, sand, and buckets is bad.

    Does this help you understand?
     
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    Yes I understand that now, but in the past my intention was never to collect dirt and sand repeatedly (before I broke the rules I mean). And to make it clear, it was wrong to keep my dirt when I restarted my island to try a new build?
     
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    Placing fresh grass blocks down is ok. Digging up and moving dirt that you got legitimately (because they were original unplaced grass blocks from /vote or trading with other players) to a different spot on your island is ok.

    Moving your dirt or buckets to another island is not ok. Players are not allowed to share/give/trade/donate/sell/buy/etc dirt blocks or buckets.

    Keeping dirt from your former island and taking advantage of the new dirt from a restart gets you in trouble. This is bad as it is island farming. And I remind you, that you repeatedly restarted your island for a massive amount of dirt in the 2 weeks before you were banned. This is why your recent actions are extra bad.

    It would be better if you just took the time to rebuild (by breaking houses/buildings/etc and putting up new ones) instead of restarting your island.

    Please feel free to ask more questions if you need to.
     
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    Ah ok, so no new dirt onto new island. Ok got it. But what about everyone else who does that? Like they start a new island for a new build (not to get more dirt) but they retain the dirt from the old and new island?
    Oh I remember, or we would not be having this conversation haha.
    I do not understand what you mean by "This is why your recent actions are extra bad" is that because I have kept dirt from the past? Because that one was an honest mistake. (Not including the reason I got banned, I meant before I took advantage of my islands). If that makes sense.
     
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    Some people restart their islands without digging up the old dirt first. They choose to start completely fresh. This is perfectly fine. When you do the /newisland replace command, it clears your inventory. This clearing is meant to help remove dirt if players try to island farming by holding on to the dirt in their inventory and restart islands right away.

    The /newisland replace command is really there to help out people who might have messed up their island, like a new player that lost a lot of beginner resources by accidentally falling into the void because they had all their stuff in their player inventory.

    People should not be restarting islands while also keeping their old dirt (by storing it somewhere else and then bringing it back) and using the new dirt. That is what you said you did in the past, which is island farming too.

    What you are banned for is collecting thousands of dirt by restarting over and over and over again while also storing the dirt on another island (which is the more common method of island farming).

    The point of this server is learning to survive with limited blocks and items. This is a unique challenge to Skyblock. We all started with about 77 dirt blocks on the island. Players here need to learn to prioritize how they will use their blocks and item and to learn how to run a self sufficient island.

    Because it is so easy to restart islands for dirt instead of earning them, it defeats the spirit of the game and this is why island farming is against the rules. The only way to earn more is to use /vote or trade with other players or donate for a rank and kits. Or be more creative and offer to help build things on other player's islands for money, or help them out with odd jobs, or create an attraction at your island have players pay for entry. There are many more ways you can earn grass blocks.

    If you play on the /economy server, it is still Skyblock with the same challenge of being an island in the sky, but you will have access to /shop command and be able to buy dirt from the in server store. On /economy, the currency is more like money instead of trading blocks for other blocks and items on /skyblock. The same island farming rules apply over there though.

    If you are really looking for grass blocks, you might want to think about playing on a different minecraft server, perhaps one that includes creative mode.
     
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