Denied [IGN: MaximumCrafter] [Banned by: Agentyy][Denied]

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  1. MaxTheWurtle
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    Your username on the platform in question: MaximumCrafter

    Full exact Ban Message: Banned on: 2018-06-03, Banned by Agentyy, Reason: Island Farming [@michael1234]

    Did you read the rules/Have you been banned before? Yes, I've fully honored the rules since the first time I was banned on the server. I was only ever banned one time on the server before this new ban by Agentyy. This ban was a very long time ago, roughly around 2013 on a different account by the name of 'DJSmithy312' and since then I've always respected to rules and never caused harm or violation to the server. I was banned before the server adapted to having new features and was banned because I would occasionally build to other people's island. Despite that, I wasn't aware this was against the rules which was my fault still as I should have read them first before playing, but I never caused any harm to islands such as breaking blocks or stealing items except for forming bridges for which I am truly sorry for doing and sorry for not reading the rules. However, this was a long time ago and I can ensure you that I have definitely changed regardless of this ban accusation.

    Why do YOU think you were banned? Personally, I think it's because my island could be seen as far too advanced at this point in time on the Skyblock server hence why people would have reason for this accusation against me.

    Was this an incorrect ban/Why do you think you should be unbanned?
    Yes. I tried joining the server today to get my daily kit, vote and just have fun which is what I typically do everyday on the sky block server until I came across that I had been banned from the server? I'm completely lost and confused to why I have been banned for the reason 'Island farming' when I have worked way to hard on my island to have this outrageous ban message. I worked very hard on my island for everything I own, especially the grass which I'm very fortunate to have thanks from the help of friends like 'ARandomDiamond' and 'SophieTheSalmon' who gave me the majority of their kits when they had access to them. Mostly, ARandomDiamond and I were constantly working on my island's landscape and focusing on making a more fantasy appeal to the island that we and others were working hard on. He even made a mod grinder to gather gold which we could sell to further gather more grass. Sometimes I would even meet people that I had helped expand their island or helped them with other favors even donated some of their grass to me to show how much they appreciated my help and wanted me to reach my goal for the island. Despite their donations being very small, this still helped me gather more resources which I was so grateful for.
    Not only that, but I have another account by the name of 'PeskySmithy' that I got a rank for so that I could get more iron, red stone and especially grass. I was very dedicated to expanding my island and making it look more appealing hence why I'm on the server daily always gathering materials. With the addition of my kit, I made sure I got my kit every 24 hours so that I could get the things I wanted for my island with the essential help of selling my diamonds to other players for more grass and always consistently voting, putting aside one of two days being missed due to errors with the voting system. Moreover, I never ever even used my grass for any other buying purposes but only to use for the benefit of my island's appearance. I only used my diamonds and iron that I was using to get myself more grass. I even did ma j even so often so that I could make more grass from selling nether stars to other players. So seeing this message today and made me feel very devastated and I'll probably lose all the grass that I had gathered or anything else that doesn't look right in someone else's view.
    I'm on sky block more or less everyday and ALWAYS made sure that I got my kit and voted so that I had a higher quantity of items that I could use for my island. So please, reconsider my ban and don't remove the items from my island because this truly isn't fair due to the amount myself and others have put into the island. My island may look advanced by the use of materials my island has, however like I said that was worked for and not cheated :(
    Like I said prior, my hard work was strongly helped by other people on the sky block server that helped me acquire more items. Also, another thing that supported me was by selling rare items that I had gathered in ma j, mob grinds and other items in my kit. Lastly, thanks to the very first drop party on the new sky block server, I was lucky enough to obtain few rare skulls from which I sold to make profit on so I could get more grass for my island.

    Questions from Michael
    • You say that a lot of your grass was obtained by selling rares to other players. Can you name the players that you traded rares with?
    I can name a few players from the top of my head but I do apologise if I get their name slightly wrong. I know I did sell a nether star a while back with a player called 'tiedwire' quite some time ago including another player I think is called zerosenpai? There were a few more people that I got in contact with but I can't remember there names at all. Besides myself selling nether stars, I am aware that my friend ARandomDiamond was also selling nether stars to other players, however I have no clue to whom also.

    I did also sell a few wither skulls to a player called 'Vinferron' and someone else by the name of 'Hejsan' I believe. I also remember selling some diamonds to Hejsan from what I can remember in exchange for grass. Sadly, I also can't remember who I give my rare dropped skull from the very first drop party on the server. Besides rares I do recall some of the people that donated to me was 'Jackwinchester5', 'Uravity'.

    Please take into consideration that most of my rare trades were done quite some time ago from this point, making it hard for me to remember every player's names. It doesn't help that I don't really talk in chat as much because I'm more comfortable with talking to players I know more about hence why I don't pay attention to the player's name often as I didn't think it was necessary.
    • Are 'ARandomDiamond' and 'SophieTheSalmon' the only players that significantly helped you with your island?
    'ARandomDiamond' was by far the most significant helper as he was giving me all his grass and some iron every time he had access to his kit. He was rank d100 meaning he didn't have the 24 hour access to his kit unlike myself, however when he had access he would put it in a chest on my island. Besides him, I did receive additional help like I said from 'SophieTheSalmon' and sometimes her sister 'ImChelsea'. All these players I stated are the ones who helped me the most and would give me their kits whenever I asked them too.
    • Were there any other players that donated or sold you a substantial amount of grass?
    Yes, however the supply I was given was slowly built up and not given to me all at once. By this I mean I asked two friends of mine to vote for the server when they could and give me their rewards once they had a high quantity of items. My friends accounts on the server are known as 'Kaelahjay' and 'MrMysteryOrange'. Both of them don't have the time to play on the server, therefore they would only give me the stuff when they had time. KaelahJay was voting on her account however, I must add that my friend 'MrMysteryOrange' was not voting on his account but on another account called 'Born2bStrange'. I made around 160-180 grass at the end of one month thanks to their help just from voting which was by far the most easiest method for me to obtain grass as I didn't require much work, but only time.
    • Have you had any interactions with a player by the name of LaMintBunny?
    Yes, I know this player personally as they are a distant friend of mine who used to visit me quite frequently (irl). However, despite knowing them, I hardly ever interacted with them in the game because they were not interested in what I liked doing on the server. They found it boring watching me build quite often so they would instead join other islands on the server to chat with other people. I believe this is something they did very often when I was with them which I didn't see as a problem because they were not causing myself or everyone harm.
    • Is there anything else you would like to mention in this ban appeal, before continuing?
    I would like to include an incident that did happen sometime ago when the new server came around. I'm not completely sure what happened, but once I was moving items from my enderchest to other chest. At the time the server was lagging considerable a lot which caused the server to restart quite a lot during that day. After the lag was over, everything I transferred from my enderchest to my chest was some how duplicated. I promise you, I had no intention of this happening, however I know I wasn't the only one due to reading the chat at the time. From this event, I do believe some extra grass and only grass was acquired.

    Thank you for taking your time reading my appeal.
    -Max
     
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    SKYBLOCK BAN APPEALS


    Complete this form (copy & paste it) to your appeal post. Please be sure to post your ban appeal in the correct section.
    If you lie or don't follow this form, your appeal will not be considered.



    In the title write: [Your in game name] Reason for ban [The Person who banned you]

    1. Server/platform (Classic / Skyblock / Forums / Discord ):
    2. Your username on the platform in question:
    3. Full exact Ban Message:
    4. Did you read the rules ?
    5. Why do YOU think you were banned?
    6. Was this an incorrect ban?
    7. Were you ever banned before on Skyblock? If so, what for?
    8. Why do you think you should be unbanned?
     
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    Is it okay that I have merged some questions together? If not I can alter it. Also thank you for informing me the structure.
     
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    Hello Max, thank you for taking the time to appeal.

    From what I have read in your ban appeal, it seems to me that you are saying that you have never island farmed. You have obtained all of your grass on your island from generous friends, voting, selling rares, and collecting your daily kits. If I am misunderstanding you in any way, please correct me.

    Before continuing with this appeal, I would like you to answer a few questions.
    • You say that a lot of your grass was obtained by selling rares to other players. Can you name the players that you traded rares with?
    • Are 'ARandomDiamond' and 'SophieTheSalmon' the only players that significantly helped you with your island?
    • Were there any other players that donated or sold you a substantial amount of grass?
    • Have you had any interactions with a player by the name of LaMintBunny?
    • Is there anything else you would like to mention in this ban appeal, before continuing?
     
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    I added the questions that you asked me into my appeal. I hope this helps.
     
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    Hello Max,

    Before continuing, I would like to thank you for being respectful and cooperative throughout the whole appeal. However, with that being said, some parts of your story seem a bit strange.

    The first thing that I would like t0 talk about is your explanation of the events leading up to your ban. In that passage, you explained that ARandomDiamond and SophieTheSalmon helped you with your island by donating their kits, so that you could get more grass. This is the first thing that caught my eye. You claim that they helped you with your island by donating, and that they are good friends, however SophieTheSalmon appears on the list of alternate accounts when I look up your name, as you can see here. In your explanation, you make it seem as if the players ARandomDiamond and SophieTheSalmon are simply kind friends of yours, and you never mention that SophieTheSalmon is one of your alternate accounts. The only alternate account that you mentioned was PeskySmithy.

    The second thing that I would like to bring up is your response to my third question. You claim that Kaelahjay, Born2bStrange, and MrMysteryOrange also helped you obtain grass. I have checked your alternate accounts, and as you can see here, both Born2bStrange, and Kaelahjay show up on your list of alternate accounts. I also tried to lookup the player MrMysteryOrange, and there were no results. I could not use the /seen command on him, and there were no results when I looked up block and chest changes from the player MrMysteryOrange. Your answer to my third question never mentions that they are your alternate accounts. This makes the whole story seem very suspicious.

    The third, and probably most important pieces of evidence, are the block logs. You claim that LaMintBunny is a friend from real life, which would explain why that account shows up on your list of alternate accounts, however it does not explain why 1,762 blocks of dirt were broken on LaMintBunny's island, and why that dirt was placed on your island, only three minutes later. Screenshots, shown here, show that 1,762 dirt was broken on LaMintBunny's island, yet the island still looks like a default island that has just been spawned in. Not only was 1,762 dirt broken on that island, but there are also logs, that you can see in the previous screenshots, that show you placed dirt on your island, almost immediately after the dirt had been broken on LaMintBunny's island. The amount was also almost identical. LaMintBunny broke 1,762 grass, from island farming, while logs show that you placed 1,792 blocks of dirt on your island.

    Could you please explain why all of this evidence points to you island farming, if you never island farmed?
     
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    The first thing you asked about is if SophieTheSalmon is a friend, then why does she appear on my alternative accounts. I did at one point have access to her account so that I could myself get her rewards, although that was ages ago and since then her details have changed for other reasons, therefore why I did not continue myself to get her rewards. I swear she isn't my account and is a real person, if you even check her sister's IP address 'ImCheslea' I'm sure you'll find somewhere that her account has been logged into that same address as her. Despite that, even if she was my alt, it wouldn't make much difference as I would still be gaining grass and without the hassle of waiting for it to be given to me. Then again you did say that I stated her as a friend which is why you were curious about that.

    I want to address here now that I only own 3 account myself, MaximumCrafter, PeskySmithy and Born2bStrange. They are my only account that I will go on at this point in time, however leading onto your next question that you asked is that both Born2bStrange and KaelahJay are also both listed as alts. First off, I never said in my statement that Born2bStrange was a friend. I clearly said that 'my friend 'MrMysteryOrange' was not voting on his account but on another account called 'Born2bStrange'. I never once said that Born2bStrange was a friend of mine but only they that it was an account that I gathered votes on. I do apologise that I did not mention that it is an alt of mine during my statement. It never occurred to me that I should of mentioned it was my account as I was more focused on how I was getting my votes. As I forgot to mention this, I want to add that another account which was used instead of Born2bStrange for voting by the user of MrMysteryOrange was my cousin's account SassyChels. If you look at this name you're gonna see it on my Alt list because of similar circumstances like SophieTheSalmon, except I asked SassyChels for her account because I had planned to use my alts and her account to have islands close to each other. This also explains the reason why KaelahJay is also on my alt list because I had planned that we could all have islands by each other thanks to the fresh server, despite them not coming on like myself due to them being far too busy to even join the server.

    You also searched for MrMysteryOrange on the seen command but was not found. Like I said before, he voted for Born2bstrange and not for himself hence why he couldn't be found because he hasn't actually been on the new server at all since it has been released. He votes for me on the sky block website and he would either vote with the names Born2bStrange or SassyChels, and they would have the stuff without actually coming onto the server, therefore making it easier for him to vote any point of the day without the hassle of logging onto his computer when he could just vote on his phone. This also goes for KaelahJay as she never came on the server herself but has been on due to me creating her an island so that she would be close nearby.

    Lastly, from the screenshots of myself and LaMintBunny's dirt usage, there is a pattern that I must admit looks similar. I decided to call her myself, and ask her for a response towards the similar pattern. I was also super intrigued myself to see that she had broken 1762 dirt block on her island as she never even builds anything herself on her island but only ever build on other islands. She told me that she was indeed island farming on her island for the benefit of new players and trying to make new friends. I had no idea that this was the case as I was always building on my own island when she was interacting with other players. She admitted to me that there was a wide selection of people she had given grass to when she was with me without my knowledge, but instead I didn't really pay attention to what she was doing and was more interested with my island and working together with ARandomDiamond who was with me the majority of times when I was also with LaMintBunny. The only thing I can suggest why the times within the screenshots were so similar is that it's a coincidence that I was expanding my island the same time around that she was conveniently breaking blocks on her island. However, in my defense we were always on the server at the same time so it was bound to have a link with times as she would only ever come on sky blocks when she was with me in my house. On behalf of her side, she only really played sky block because I liked playing it. She didn't even know that island farming was illegal on the server which is my fault for not telling her the rules myself.
    Aside from that, I want to add that despite the similarity between our times, I always expanded my island slowly everyday when I had the grass to use. I would sometimes break grass blocks that I had placed and moved them to a different spot on my island in order to alter the landscape which was done quite often as I am not good at doing landscapes which led me in the end to keeping the most of the island flat. The usage of my grass was always used on my island for building purposes and I limited myself to using the grass elsewhere in shops and buying items off other players. I've still been collecting grass to this day and have a chest of all the grass I have left over after finishing the landscape on the island. (If you're interested in seeing the amount of grass I have, you can find the chest with the grass near the entrances of my island around the enderchest area to hopefully give you a better insight on how devoted I an when it comes to getting grass). Kits, voting, selling rares and vote drop parties were how I got my grass, not from island farming.
     
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    Hello Max,

    The first thing that I would like to address is the issue of alternate accounts. While all of the things that you stated in your previous reply, are possible, there is really no way to prove that LaMintBunny, or any other of the accounts you listed, are not owned by you. For that reason, I will have to use the information that I currently have available. Whether or not LaMintBunny is your friend's account, that account has logged on to the server, using your IP. There is no way to prove that you do not own the account, and all of the evidence points to LaMintBunny being one of your alternate accounts. The fact a lot of the dirt was broken just minutes before you placed an almost identical amount on your island does not help you in this circumstance. Unless provided with solid evidence that LaMintBunny is not one of your accounts, I will have to assume that you do own it.

    Moving on to the next section, you previously stated that you had access to your friend's account, and that is why it shows up as one of your alternate accounts.
    You say that you had access to SophieTheSalmon's account. Was this with her permission, or did you use the account because you thought that she wouldn't care? I also checked alternate accounts of ImChelsea, and the only alternate account that it showed was McShannon. This leads me to believe that ImChelsea is not SophieTheSalmon's sister, and is in fact one of your alternate accounts. You can view the screenshot here if you would like.

    If you own the account Born2bStrange, why was MrMysteryOrange voting on it? You were saying that you used your friend's accounts to collect votes, to obtain more grass. Why did you not do the same with MrMysteryOrange? Also, when voting for extra grass, did each friend type in their own name, causing each account to only vote three times per day, or did they all enter your name on the voting website?

    I find it difficult to believe you just happened to be placing dirt on your island, almost exactly at the same time as LaMintBunny was breaking it. If your statement that you two are friends in real life is true, I find it difficult to believe that she did not tell you anything about her island farming. I also find it very strange that the last block of dirt that you placed on your island was placed exactly two minutes and one second after LaMintBunny broke the most recent block of dirt on their island.

    I would like to conclude by summing up everything that I just explained. Please read the bullet points below, and make sure you understand them. If you disagree with any of them, or feel that I was unfair at any point, please let me know. It does not guarantee that I will change my mind, however I hope that we can come to an understanding.
    • There is no way to prove LaMintBunny is not your account.
    • Unless provided with solid evidence, I must use the resources I currently have available, and make the assumption that LaMintBunny is your account.
    • SophieTheSalmon did not appear on ImChelsea's list of alternate accounts. This makes your story sound even more suspicious.
    • If LaMintBunny is your friend from real life, I find it hard to believe that she did not mention anything about island farming, or giving grass to players.
    • Dirt on your island was placed very shortly after LaMintBunny island farmed the dirt.
     
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    The only evidence there is in my defense that shows LaMintBunny is not my account, is if you check on the classic sky block and look at her account list. I'm not sure if you have the ability to check on there, but if you do and check MaximumCrafter's account list you're gonna find a similar list to the one on the new server. However, If you check Lamintbunny's account herself, I will not be on her list, or neither will any other of my alt accounts. Back on classic is when she actually liked the server and built on her own island with my help and MrMysteryOrange who also played at that time. I never went over LaMintBunny's house to play minecraft and I didn't give her my account either which makes me to believe that if you check classic you will have evidence she is my friend and not my alt. Also, I have no idea if this really adds anything on my behalf but if her account was my alt, isn't strange that the account has a female skin. The same for SophieTheSalmon, why would I have included a girls name within this account if it was mine?

    With her permission, she wouldn't have given me access if she didn't want me to access her kit which is one of the main reasons she gave it to me. McShannon is also ImChelsea and SophieTheSalmon's sister and like I said before, if you check on the classic skyblock server, their account list will have all their accounts and my accounts will not be present. Hopefully this also proves that SophieTheSalmon isn't my account.

    Like I said before, MrMysteryOrange was voting on my account and not his because it didn't mean he himself had to come on the server to give me the rewards as I could just get them on Born2bstrange myself when I had a high quantity. MrMysteryOrange voted for Born2bstrange or Sassychels my cousin, KaelahJay would vote for herself mostly and sometimes vote for PeskySmithy. I had access to both PeskySmithy and KaelahJay's account so I didn't matter which one she voted for. ARandomDiamond always voted for himself and never any of my accounts. I believe even ARandomDiamond had other account that friends would also vote on his other accounts too, however I'm not too sure how often they did that.

    It seriously is strange, but there's nothing I can do to prove my innocence here. All I can say is that it's a really weird coincidence. Sadly, there is no way evidence here that I can give you that helps me here which really frustrates me.

    Hopefully I answered the first three points in the answers above. As of the 4th point you made, I was on Skype with ARandomDiamond most of the time when LaMintBunny was with me, and we wouldn't really talk much about the game but rather other stuff. She also didn't talk much to me when I was on Skype with him as she felt awkward at most times which is why I didn't know what she was doing most of time. Your last point again, there is nothing I can say except I was always building when she was with me at my house, but still I have no evidence that I could provide you with on my behalf to make me look less suspicious here sadly.
     
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    Hello Max,

    Unfortunately, your ban appeal has been denied. I will explain why I have made this decision below. If you have any questions, please send me a private message here on the forums, or contact me on discord. My discord username is Michael#3287.


    The first issue that needs to be addressed is the issue of island farming. Even if LaMintBunny is not your alt, and you truly did not know about the island farming until you were banned from it, the fact is that LaMintBunny island farmed. There were logs of 1,762 being broken on that island, in short bursts of island farming. Your account was banned because LaMintBunny showed up on the list of your alternate accounts. Your island had a very large amount of grass placed on it, and you also had a lot of grass in your chests. Upon further investigation, logs from both islands showed that you placed grass on your island, sometimes just minutes after LaMintBunny had obtained dirt from island farming. To summarize what I have just explained, you were banned for having an alternate account that had been island farming. Having a large amount of grass on your island didn't help your situation either. It made it look like you used an alternate account to island farm, so that you could advance your main island.

    I understand that there is a small possibility that LaMintBunny is in fact your friend's account, and not one that you own. You explained in your appeal that you have friends that have played at your house before, and that is why you believe they show up on your list of alternate accounts. If this was the case, I would assume that LaMintBunny would also have logged in from their house occasionally, and would not always wait until they are physically in the same room as you to log in to Skyblock. Just to double check, I asked Leeeroieee to look at the logs from April 10th, from 10:00am to 11:00am, which is the time that the most recent island farming took place, and tell me if the two accounts were logged in from the same IP. He replied, explaining that they were. He even went beyond what I had requested, and told me that LaMintBunny and your account have been logging in from the same IP for the entire month of April. If LaMintBunny is actually a friend, and not an alternate account, I would find it hard to believe that she only logged on to Skyblock when she was at your house, and never played without you.

    I realize that you claim that you and LaMintBunny are different people, and that you had no idea she was island farming, however you have almost no evidence to support this. I understand that there is a small possibility of this being the case, however without any evidence whatsoever, there is not a lot that can be done. I cannot simply treat LaMintBunny as a different person, just because you say that she is a different person. As far as I can tell, MaximumCrafter and LaMintBunny are controlled by the same person. I have no reason to believe otherwise, which forces me to treat these two accounts as if they are controlled by the same person.

    All of the evidence that I have found points to the following conclusion. You own LaMintBunny, and used your alternate account to island farm, hoping that you would not get caught. All of the resources I currently have available point to LaMintBunny being your alternate account. You used LaMintBunny to island farm 1,762 dirt, and place it on your own island shortly afterwards. Your whole story has very little supporting evidence, and I find it difficult to believe.



    If you feel that I have been unfair in any part of this appeal, or would like to ask questions, please contact me by creating a conversation on the forums, or contacting me on Discord.
     
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