Denied [Jess] Illegitimate Ban Reasoning [Connortim9][Denied]

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    Hello Mr. Connortim9 this is Jess and I am appealing in referral to the ban I was issued for my post in my thread being allegedly rude. However, I do not think that is correct, which is why I am bringing you this appeal.
    1. Server name (.net / .org ): I was banned on the Skyblock forums.
    2. In-game name: My forum name is Jess
    3. Full exact Ban Message: Rules Violations. Your ban will be lifted on March 28th, 2017.
    4. Did you read the rules? I have read the rules, and that is precisely why I deem this ban mistaken, as I do not believe anything that I've done warrants a week-long ban.
    5. Why do YOU think you were banned? I was banned for saying something to someone who asked me to say it.
    6. Was this an incorrect ban? I believe so.
    7. Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? I have been banned multiple times for multiple reasons. Most staff should be aware of my background on this server.
    8. Why do you think you should be unbanned? I believe I should be unbanned because I did not do anything wrong. Connor went on my thread, asking for my honest opinion of him. I am not obligated to sugarcoat things in a thread about honesty, and I won't be doing it just to please someone.
    The full exchange is attached in the below spoiler:

    It was a candid reply that does not directly break any rules. The only infraction this may fall under is "disrespect," but even that is pushing the limit because in the infraction list, it clearly states that disrespect includes uncalled for comments. Since Connor specifically asked for my response, what I said is in no way uncalled for.

    Furthermore it was not inflammatory, since inflammatory is defined as "intended to arouse angry or violent feelings," (courtesy of Google) which I had not intended. I was merely stating my honest opinion, which was the objective of my thread, and was also what he had asked for when replying to my thread.

    The post may verge on being rude, though that is untrue. The only slightly offensive/impolite piece of writing (as the definition of rude is offensive/impolite, according to Google), is in referral to Cypriot. However, even that (when compared to other people's words about Cypriot), are not overly harsh enough to invoke a one week ban, especially as the words were only used to emphasize an unrelated point, and the starting punishment is a three day mute.

    Seeing as how the words were not uncalled for, inflammatory, and not rude toward the target audience, I do not believe my ban is legitimate. It deserves to be removed, or shortened, at the very least. Lastly, I would prefer if another moderator of higher status take over this appeal.
     
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    I certainly agree that I may have over-reacted and I want to apologize about that. I want to Shorten the time period, but since you asked for a higher rank person to handle this, let's see what Krissy has to say about your response.
     
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    Alright. Thank you for reading and considering my appeal.
     
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    I will keep this short.
    - Connor never asked for disrespect. He asked for a tbh. Making disrespectful comments uncalled for. But that isn't what disrespect is limited to. What you said was rude. That is disrespect.

    - TBH threads are not exempt from the forum rules. Therefore you were punished. Just because you are being honest, it needs to be constructed in a way that doesn't break the rules. Had Connor said "roast me", I would be grumpy at Connor for banning you. However I see this ban as legitimate due to no such request was made.

    Connor obviously wants to shorten your ban, I will leave this up to him to sort out. Despite the negative things you said he is giving you a chance.
     
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    That's incorrect. The thread is heavily opinionated. My opinion being unfavorable is not a reason to ban. As I explained, it was not uncalled for, because the definition of the phrase is "not summoned or invited." He had invited me to write what I thought about him, and I did. If I had went on another thread and intentionally said those things to him without his invitation, that would be uncalled for. This is not.

    What I had said was not rude toward Connor. It was simply put in the simplest, terms. That may seem brash, or curt, but certainly not enough to be rude toward Connor. However, I do admit that I had brought Cypriot into the post and said rude things about him. However, that is unrelated because he was not involved in this punishment, and I would prefer to keep it that way.

    I understand that the thread is not exempt from the rules, but they do change how they reflect upon those particular threads. As the responses are a result of the person deliberately asking for an honest opinion, the person having then disagreed with the opinion is not at the fault of the thread author.
     
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    I don't know what your definition of rude is but it sure seems to differ from mine.
    Argue all you like your comments were above the rules and called for but the invitation was for a tbh that followed the forum rules as per all comments are supposed to and you failed to do so causing the ban which is legitimate. Again, Connor, you can make your decision.
     
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    My definition of rude is offensive, impolite, and/or of crude nature. All of which, my post is not. And certainly not rude insofar to invoke a week-long ban, especially as the only offensive and crude words were not directed to Connor, but as an unrelated additive to emphasize a point.
    Having disagreed with an opinion one has asked for does not translate to having broken a rule. Furthermore, seeing as the comment was called for, was not inflammatory, and was not excessively rude, there is no reason for me to have received the maximum possible punishment for the rule I had apparently broke - ipso facto, it was illegitimate.

    You do not need to argue against me on behalf of someone whose words and opinions differ from yours.
     
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    I don't wish to argue further, and only await a final decision on this appeal.
     
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    I am not sure how you do not see how your post was very rude and offensive. I don't feel like you are empathetic about this at all, so I do not have a choice to decline this appeal. Thank you for your participation.
     
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