Dirt in shop FIX (No island farm)

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  1. SirAgent
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    A month ago I posted a thread suggesting that we add dirt to the shop at /warp grass here. Support was mixed on that because people might get confused and think dirt was a legal to trade item. But think about this. Dirt, along with buckets and sand, are illegal to trade because island farming is possible. But what if we implement a new system for this? It could be something like: 1 free getting island, 2-3 free replaces, and then every replace after that is on an insanely long cooldown, like 1-2 weeks or something. I would want those free replaces because I reset my island twice when I joined and if I couldn't do that then I would have left. So that goes into consideration. But if you add dirt to the tradeshops, like 16 a grass, island farming would be worth about 3 grass a reset (including sand). And if you are getting 3 grass a week without being able to do anything, well... who would do that? So if this system or a similar one is implemented, then you can add dirt to /warp grass so we can have big farms. Sound good?

    Please actually vote and don't just type support. Reasons and comments would be very much appreciated.

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    No support. You want to make island farming legal, which would cause a lot of problems. It's kinda like getting a kit without paying for it. You would get a free island with free stuff, which you could sell, and get grass or diamonds or whatever. Even if it is every few weeks, that's just giving away free stuff. There's a reason why island farming and trading dirt/buckets and such is illegal. Even if a lot of players supported this, I'm almost positive it wouldn't be made legal.
     
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    Another thing is a lot of people have dirt and stuff stored to large amounts that would easily quickly be sold if this ever was allowed.
     
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    Or just put a cool down on new island making and add dirt to the shop and make it legal to trade.
    Problem solved.
     
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    once again people have dirt stored up to a large amount I'm sure so this wouldn't be a good idea.
     
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    I'm all in for this
     
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    So? Dirt will be cheap to make less of an incentive to sell it off. It will happen eventually once Cyp gets his hand on a good cooldown plugin anyway.
    People that have legit dirt from grass they had to destroy can finally sell it. Same with sand and people who have so much of it in kits.
    It is a good idea and will most likely happen in the future.
     
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    I think the island cooldown is fine completely, idk about dirt though.

    But meh.

    There are ways people do it anyways so who knows.
     
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    Dirt is kind of a harmless and almost useless item in general anyway...
     
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    Indeed. People use it to farm and to make really pretty islands, not trade to make profit. Once it cannot be farmed easily from islands all we will have is the existing dirt and grass being the source of dirt.
    Then people who need replacement dirt when they lose theirs can buy it without being punished because they are new and inexperienced and it makes the game less restricting.
    Same with sand.
    Dirt wont be expensive because it is generally a building block. Even people with existing dirt, generally from grass anyway wont make a fortune.
    Cool down is the way to go then optional adding it to shop would probably work better than the original suggestion that may promote island farming.
     
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    I do agree partially other then the fact that there will still be the problem with people using alts.

    It may not seem like it but alts can still be used in large numbers to get dirt if people really wanted imo. But not for sure.
     
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    Both sides make good points. :confused:
     
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    Let's talk about alts.
    So we know if we have 4 alts farming islands with a worth of 5 grass a reset (probably too high), that is 20 grass a week after this cooldown implementation. But each of these alts costs $27 USD. And Donor25 costs $25 USD. And that gives 10 grass every 3 days. So they are spending $100 for 20 grass a week. But if they get donor100 on their main with that money, they get 15 grass and a diamond every day. They are wasting their money but their donation is paid direct to Microsoft. They are paying for this "free" grass.

    Because of this, I would suggest that alts farming islands should not be considered.
     
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    I mean those who use alt gens. They are disposable and not useful other then to get banned for those who intend to use them usually.
     
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    Exactly. You can make the dirt worth almost nothing as you can't silk dirt anyways
     
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    There's alt gens?

    Yea sadly :(
     
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    Yep

    Thanks but I'm not going for it.
     
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    Yep

    Thanks but I'm not going for it.
     
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    No Support. Just like the negative reasons you stated.
     
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