Lemonade is sour.

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  1. chain
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    1. Server name (.net / .org ): skyblock.net
    2. In-game name: TheChainShovel
    3. Full exact Ban Message: I am not banned. My ability to rate was removed.
    4. Did you read the rules ? No.
    5. Why do YOU think you were banned? For rate abusing.
    6. Was this an incorrect ban? I was not banned. But yes, the punishment I received for rate abuse was correct.
    7. Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? I was banned in game a few weeks ago for lava griefing but I honestly had no idea what I was doing.
    8. Why do you think you should be unbanned? I want to rate again.

    I am not aware of any rule that states I cannot post appeals as frequently as I please but if there is one please inform me.
     
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    And referring back to this :

    "I'm not going to accept your appeal for as long as I moderate, as you have completely destroyed your online reputation both on Mineverse and Skyblock. According to many other moderators, you have ruined your reputation for them as well. Furthermore, you say this now, but you will go back on your word if you were to get your rating ability back."

    You may eventually change your mind. And no, I have not completely destroyed my online reputation on both Mineverse and Skyblock contrary to what you might believe. But I'd love to know the names of the moderators who you were talking to about me.
     
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    Do you have a screenshot of this? That's bias.
     
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    It was quoted from my last appeal. I tried responding to it on his profile but he deleted my comment.

    Lemonade | Skyblock Forums
     
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    Seriously? :L
     
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    What are hidden are not for your eyes. Staff only. You have no need to see it.
     
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    I know what being bias is...

    >I'm not going to accept your appeal for as long as I moderate
    It's worded poorly and comes as power-abusive and bias. Anyone who uses the term 'you'll remain banned while I moderate' should be demoted as that's a clear sign that the moderator cannot keep a clear and straight head when dealing with different cases.

    >According to many other moderators, you have ruined your reputation for them as well
    This is irrelevant to the appeal as it has nothing to do with the rate abuse that occurred.

    >Furthermore, you say this now, but you will go back on your word if you were to get your rating ability back
    Furthermore, assumptions have no place in appeals.

    "It's not really bias. The guy practically rated like 700 things of Stels and refused to remove them, making Lemo spend forever to delete the abuse. If anyone else had done that, I'm sure Lemo would of said the same. Bias is when your favoring people (and vice versus) vs others, in which Lemo isn't. He is stating that the guy has broken his trust and is known to being bad and rude."

    Moderators need to learn what the hide tag is for. If I was appealing and a moderator came and used a hide tag on my appeal, I'd be rather displeased.
     
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    The Hide tags are used for multiple things, least of which to insult the player who is appealing/reporting. More commonly it is used to contain Work Product, but yes, and shockingly, it is also used to contain differing opinions among staff, where it often takes several posts to clarify various issues or reach an agreement on a definition of something, etc etc. Hopefully that clears things up for you.

    That's not bias, but you are correct in that it is a poorly worded, personally-loaded equivalent of "perm ban".

    Forum Admins need to define what the hide tag is for. If I was handling an appeal or report and a forum admin came and just leaked stuff that I was privately discussing with another colleague, I'd be rather displeased.

    As you are the forum admin and seem to have taken over this appeal, feel free to do with it what you wish, but the above is my 2 cents.
     
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    If the staff team want to talk about something irrelevant to my appeal then they can do so in numerous other places, anything that is relevant to my appeal I should be allowed to see and argue against.

    blaq what the hell are you talking about? There is nothing here that I should not be allowed to read, this is my appeal and I'd like to assume that anything posted here has to do with me or my situation, there is no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to read the staff teams' differing opinions and hence defend myself from their accusations/bias opinions.
     
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    Also, Lemonade is being bias, he hates me with a passion. Judging from his comments he believes that there is no chance for an appeal of mine to be accepted by him, simply because I wasted three hours of his time. Had I been someone else however, long time player of this server, friend etc. I strongly believe he would not have said what he did.
     
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    That's your opinion. Has he actually done or said anything that's biased towards you, other than what you've assumed and inferred from his comments?
     
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    Actually yes, on Mineverse, for some time he was commenting my profile attempting to make me look bad, but here, whenever I post something on his profile, anything at all, he deletes it. Of course he has the right to do this but I feel as if he isn't doing it to anybody else.
     
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    You could of deleted it off your profile. I'm sure Lemo would have issued the same punishment and everything if another person did the exact same as you, friend or foe.
     
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    I would not say that.
     
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    Let's wait for Lem to reply :p
     
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    And what is he going to say? He's just gong to deny my appeal due to his bias nature. I'd be better off spending the rest of my time trying to get him demoted than opening appeals, at least when he's demoted he cannot handle my appeal.
     
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    Then you can make a report on him if you wish, however this appeal is for Lemo.
     
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    Ah yes. Make a report accusing Lemonade of being bias, and what good will that do when apparently the moderators cannot agree on what bias actually is as shown above.
     
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    I was just suggesting what to do if you felt that way. If you don't feel like doing it, you don't have to, and you can just wait for Lem :)
     
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