Stealing: A New Perspective

Ah skyblock! The place with islands, shops, and…….stealers. Now before you think this is a thread on how stealers and looters are bad and all that stuff, just wait a minute. This isn’t a thread like that. This thread is on how stealers aren’t all that bad. I understand that this will get a lot of hate and a lot of controversy, but I in no means want to start a flame war, nor do I want to cause trouble. This is only here to share my opinion. Okay? We clear?

First off, there’s the type of stealer which you do /trust (username) or /coop (username) then the next day, your items are gone! Well, to be fair, it’s really your fault. How so? Well, it’s plain and simple. You trusted them. That’s right, YOU allowed them access to YOUR island, thus allowing them to do anything they want on there. Now we often forget that the internet is full of real people like us. Would you leave your front door open for everyone to come in? I don’t think so. Would you just hand a random stranger your belongings? Probably not. So why should you do that in skyblock?

Secondly, the item frames, armor stands, and crops issue. To me, this really isn’t a crime. You put it out there, it’s fair game. Simple as that.

Lastly, I’d like to point out that some people really do overreact. If you can’t handle this, then don’t play. It’s really that simple.

Again, this thread will get a lot of hate, and I will be called heartless, but sorry guys, it’s the truth.

 

The problem with your reasoning is that it's the person's fault for trusting the griefer/stealer in the first place, but that wouldn't be a problem if the griefer wasn't a griefer. You are saying that griefers 'aren't that bad', but they still broke the rules. That has nothing to do with the person who trusted them. That's like saying that if I put a gun in your hand and you shoot me, it's my fault for giving you the gun. However, about item frames and crops, there are ways to protect them (e.g put blocks 2 blocks high over the crops so they can't trample). Also, as stated here:

Well say I own a bank. I put it on the street. It's out in the open, isn't it? Is it fair game then? If someone robs the bank, is it a crime or not?

tl;dr Stealing is a crime regardless how or why it's done.

 

Yes it's partly the person who trusted them's fault. You see, the stealer is simply taking advantage of the situation. If you didn't trust them, they can't. And as for the bank, it is quite fair game. You put it out, KNOWING there would be people who steal. So why did you put it out then? You see, the internet is filled with quite a mixture of people. Is it really safe to trust them. No. Also with your gun reference, yes, it is partly your fault for trusting me with it without knowing me well.

 

That is irrelevant. If I give you the means to commit a crime and you commit the crime, you are a criminal, regardless.

 

If you /trust someone you do it at your own risk. Stop trying to act cool, this needadoctor guy is talking sense. It is partly admins faults for getting rid of log blocks. Be quiet he said he didn't want to start a flame war.

 

I'm not starting a flame war. As you would notice, I didn't even rate him badly. I am simply pointing out that his reasoning is flawed. I don't care about the application to Minecraft, I'm talking about human ethics.

 

Arrowflint, yes you might be a criminal but is the WHOLE situation your fault? No. Again, they have trusted you. It's like leaving your locker open, or even your house door open.

Squirrellll, thank you for seeing my point in this. Btw, I'm a girl

 

I agree to a certain extent about the /trust and /coop. Don't do that with anyone you aren't sure will not grief, but that doesn't mean that they are doing anything good. They are still breaking the rules. If you left your front door open, it's still illegal for people to take things. As for the other stuff, I don't agree with you at all. Just because there are loopholes doesn't mean that it should be legal to exploit them.

 

I wasn't arguing against the fact that you /trust at your own risk, but they are still breaking the rules. Perhaps it's your fault that they were able to grief you, but they griefed you nonetheless and thus they should be punished.

 

Trust
At
Your
Own
Risk

 

There are loopholes and taking advantage of them is a different question

 

k.

 

Tru. The guy that stole my heart is the sweetest person you can find

But seriously, some of the players are just young kids who have yet to know how life works.

 

I misread the title as you were stealing a new perspective, hah.
Anyway, I see where you're coming from, but when it comes down to it, the fact that you can steal items, doesn't mean you should. Just because someone puts a gun in your hand, is it their fault if you decide shoot them?

 

Finding the right person to trust is hard.

Recently a player just betrayed my trust.

 

I had two spawners stolen today. I grinded bones for hours to get those. Is it my fault they were stolen. All my spawners are open to the public so everyone can get food, ink, wool, eggs and bonemeal. Is it my fault they were stolen? I make all my shops at reasonable prices and give items out for free if someone can't afford it. Is it my fault? Maybe because I'm too nice? Maybe it is the fault of nice people. Maybe they should see the worst in everyone instead of the best? Maybe they should always be looking over there shoulder. Heck, maybe they should become stealers too??
There are two types of people on Minecraft. The ones who play fair and the ones who think everything should be handed to them without working for it.

 

LOL, dude, that's just like the 'teach men not to rape' analogy LOL

 

Honestly,
If you don't trust a person why do /trust. Trusting random people for no reason is like asking to get looted.

 

Exactly. Putting blame on the victim. "You should lock all your chests and never trust" aka " you shouldn't of worn those clothes or led them on "