Remove SkyChat (Game)

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Remove SkyChat (Game)

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  1. TropicalSleep
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    Everyone is already abusing it by using keybinds and its just giving people free grass now. I vote its changed/removed but would like to see what everyone else thinks as well.

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  2. Rozels
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    Gotta support this.
     
  3. Cookiehh
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    i agree too
     
  4. Blyx
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    Aw, that sucks! I found them really fun, but if people are going to cheat for free grass what's the point?
     
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    It's really sad to see people abusing it just for their satisfaction and ruining for the rest of the community. It's a great addition but I don't know if it's worth it if people are just going to continuously abuse. It would be great if someone could think of a way around it.
     
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    Full support on this one mate.
     
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    Maybe have like 100 words selected and have a different one everytime. Players shouldn’t be allowed to make words.
     
  8. War_
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    Support on removing/changing, that user ShyHeart is abusing it so bad xd
     
  9. athyrix
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    I think maybe we should warn people for abusing it, and maybe exclude them from the games.
     
  10. Beemo
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    I suggest adding more words so that people cant use keybinds but if not just remove that I honestly dont care at this point I guess ill support
     
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    Or just remove that long word and add more random words (doesnt have to be minecraft/skyblock related) so players can't always be ready for it aka by copy pasting or so. Plus add unscrambled words that can be 2 words, for example uiteq can be quiet or quite that would do the trick.
    Here's my suggestion link: Skyblock - "Hover over the word" Game Suggestions | Skyblock Forums
     
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    Maybe making it so there is a limit on how many times you can win, or possibly when you say the word it won't let you say it so you can't win or something? It's really sad to see these commands being abused.
     
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    I dont want a limit on how many times you win But I do wish that they find a fix or just remove it
     
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    a don't think it should be removed, maybe edited though.
    also add allowing mods to warn/kick for abuse on this
     
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    Maybe more words? They could just get a list of random words and add them, or make it 1 one grass, set a limit, or make a count so after 5-ish wins you get grass.

    It’s a shame to see people already abusing this and ruining it for everyone else.
     
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    ^ I think making a limit of how many times you can win a day or something could work
     
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    Agree, they should remove the sky chat game. How can one person win in like in 2 seconds!
     
  18. zzggg
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    Alright, first I want to clear my name by saying that I wasn't intentionally abusing SkyChat for grass. Yes, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious was copy pasted, but that was the one word multiple players also admitted to cheating on, and it didn't seem reasonable for me to attempt to outspeed other copy-pasters. Every other time I won was through reaction time and typing speed (onomatopoeia and skyblockrulez included), despite the hotkey accusations that I received throughout the day. While it's technically impossible to prove my legitimacy without video recording, there were multiple occasions during which I had made typos before the word was correctly spelled, which is relatively indicative of my typing speed. That being said, I do apologize for copying pasting supercalifragilisticexplialidocious, though I deny any accusations of further hotkeying. I do have a few suggestions for improving SkyChat, which all breaks down to limiting its predictability and straightforwardness:

    - The first and most obvious improvement would be to increase the word pool, though this has been suggested multiple times so I won't elaborate any further

    - I would consider lowering the frequency of plain typing games and relying primarily on scramble games, as with a large enough word pool, it would be virtually impossible to memorize, and it would limit the success rate of speedtypers by adding another skill requirement. However, with enough time, experienced players would have a significant advantage over newer players, so simple typing games would even out the playing field in that case.

    - Remove staff names, skyblock terms, and joke words (supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, onomatopoeia etc.) from scramble games. Staff names are practically only guessable through memorization, making them rather unfair for new players. The same applies to skyblock terms and joke words, as unscrambling words like onomatopoeia is practically impossible for inexperienced players, and also encourages cheating. Scramble words should include a few hundred common 5-7 letter words taken from a dictionary, thus allowing them to be relatively easily unscrambled, but difficult to predict.

    - Reducing the predictability of the games will limit the success of people like me who AFK and pop in occasionally. I know SkyChat usually pops up every 4-5 minutes, and pressing t and snapping my cursor to the hovertext is basically muscle memory, so I would suggest further randomizing its "spawnrate", and possibly shrink or randomize the position of the hovertext. As of right now, it is easy to keep your cursor at the bottom of the chat window until SkyChat appears, thus allowing you to quickly see the hidden word. If the hovertext space was smaller and appeared at different horizontal positions along the SkyChat message, that would prevent players from "camping" the SkyChat.

    All in all, SkyChat in its current state is broken and very unbalanced, and anyone with good reaction time and typing speed can consistently dominate the game, so I agree with removing it until it is either fixed or scrapped entirely. I'm contemplating throwing the stack and a half of grass I got from SkyChat into the void or dumping it on a random, as it felt far too easy compared to "legitimate" methods of earning grass. Once again, I'd like to apologize for cheating on supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, and I will probably refrain from playing SkyChat entirely from now on.

    -Shy
     
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    tl;dr

    Ways to improve SkyChat:
    • Increase the word pool by adding short-medium lengthed common dictionary words
    • Remove skyblock terms, staff names, and extremely long joke words
    • Consider adjusting the ratio between plain typing challenges and scramble challenges
    • Further randomizing the "spawnrate" of SkyChat challenges
    • Make it difficult for players to predict exactly where the hovertext appears in the message
    My response to hotkey allegations:
    • I did use copy paste for supercalifragilisticexpialidocious but nothing else
    • There were a few times when I misspelled the word before it was correctly spelled, thus reducing the possibility of me using hotkeys for other words
    • The only way to actually prove I did the words legit is with video recording, which I hope no one actually cares enough about to request from me
     
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