O no [Wilbo] [Accepted]

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  1. Evian
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    Server name (.net / .org ): .net
    In-game name: Embarrassinq
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    Did you read the rules ? Yeah Why do YOU think you were banned? Griefing an island.
    Was this an incorrect ban? Kinda
    Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Why do you think you should be unbanned?
    I was griefed for about 100+ diamonds around a week ago, nothing could be done as it was a trust grief. All mods I asked responded with the same thing, they cannot ban for trust griefs (I ask about 3-5 mods). They also couldn't get any of the items back.
    I have been trusted on this island for 4+ months for no reason, so I go to his island with a friend and take a few things of not much value. After I had been talking to the guy when he came online I decided to give it back out of guilt because I know how it felt when I was griefed. Also a friend who took more than me from this island wasn't banned and didn't give anything back.
    If you are allowed to ban for trust griefing can the grief on my island be reconsidered?

    Wilbos_World

    EDIT: Any other mod opinions would be appreciated
     

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    Different mods I believe deal with things different. I was not the one to deal with this so all I'll do input my opinion on trust griefing.

    It really depends what was griefed. If it was intentional and many valuables are missing then for me I'd ban. Personally I'd try and find out the story more of why they were trusted in the first place and how bad the grief was. If it wasn't major, depending on the impact I might still give them a temp ban and refund the items.

    Some people forget they have others trusted which is why you may have been trusted for no reason. Griefing is bannable. If you break someone's island with the intent of looting or destruction, that is considered griefing. If it was consensual then it wouldn't be called griefing :p anyways this is my two cents
     
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    I ban players who are trusted if they ask for trust promising to help or not do anything bad and end up griefing/stealing items. I also ban those who when receive trust, take people's items out of spite, anger, or greed.

    Some mods are misinformed about the whole /trust grief ordeal. I believe that players shouldn't have to deal with people stealing their items because they trusted someone. It shouldn't be their fault if another player agrees to help.

    It was rude of you to take the player's items, but thank you for returning them, that was the right thing to do.
     
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    Thank you for your opinions on this, just waiting for Wilbos now :>
     
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    I ban depending on the grief. If the grief is large I usually perm ban till appeal or temp ban for 7 days. If it's just a minor grief I verbally warn them and confiscate the items taken.

    Every mod has a different way of punishment. Some mods ban players for things they wouldn't ban others for if they know the rules yet they still decide to break them.
     
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    You knowingly took items that weren't yours (Clay and Iron) and when I asked you, you said that you took the items and it wasn't stealing because you were trusted. You took the items because you thought you weren't going to get banned for it. I believe that you shouldn't be able to steal another's items and grief their island without permission. It states in the rules that looting isn't allowed and that is what I banned you for, not trust griefing.
     
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    This is why /trust is a command isn't it? I didn't ask for trust he just randomly trusted me, he can only blame himself? I'm not trying to make it seem like I didn't do it but I feel like a lot of the blame is on himself.
     
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    o and

     
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    Those cases have been dealt with already, I'm not sure of the case you are talking about but if you were to link me to it or show me evidence I'd be happy to tell you why the decision was made. I'll look into it for you to see if there is enough evidence to get your items back. It seems moderators have told you that trust griefing wasn't ban-able, and then you went and stole a bunch of items because you were upset about losing some of your own items. It should be common sense not to take another person's belongings because you lost your own. It's hard sometimes for a moderator to find out the complete truth. Sometimes we have to assume things based on the evidence we are given. Rocket did not go into detail about how you were trusted, and you did not disclose to me all of the items that you took. So, I banned you to retrieve the items because you were being kind of dodgy with answering my questions.
     
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    So to actually get my items back I need to be banned for someone to care.

    This is why I gave them back.

    Honestly I thought I did until I read the ban message. If you asked me to return the items reminding me what I took, because it has been a while since I took them I would have instantly.

    I'm sorry. :<
     
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    With the items retrieved, I'll unban you. Just know you were not banned for trust griefing, you were banned for looting items and not disclosing to me all of the items you took. Although you may have forgotten what you took, I had to act on the evidence and information that I had. As for your other case, if a mod told you that they cannot refund you that is most likely the case. However, mistakes are made sometimes so I will look into the again for you. Pm me if you have any further concerns, thank you.
     
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