Rewrite Rules and Allow People to View Reports/Appeals

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  1. BryanTran1
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    People can just make alt accounts and just spam the appeals with support :/
     
  2. Dewsiee
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    That's what IP lookups are for.
     
  3. TimePlaysGames
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    Ignoring B, but A is just stupid.

    The admins (admin) doesn't need to write every single rule with every single possible loophole and very specific case scenario writen down. It's just stupid. I even found the rules in in depth form pretty useless aswell. And mods have the right to use their judgement, if a moderator thinks something is wrong, they can ban for it. If they are incorrect, the rest of the staff team will point that out in the appeal.
     
  4. BryanTran1
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    Remember there is a lot of appeals... and I guess that Cyp is the only one (out of the mods) that knows how to Ip ban
     
  5. AbruptBalloon1
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    My recent False ban was more of a misunderstanding than anything. Blaq thought that I was somehow bypassing my bans when in reality, he had misunderstood how the ban system worked and made the mistake of incorrectly setting the parameters of my ban. When he confronted me about why I was unbanned, I obviously had no clue at the time so he re-banned me and then once I was unbanned from that(before it was time) he claimed I had 24 hours to explain. I had no clue and I didnt want to be banned again so I promptly reported him which stopped further bans as well as sorted everything out.

    I must say, a little communication goes a long way. Im not saying all of these changes are necessary, im just saying that some communication between the players and mods when it comes to bans and rule-breaking can really help.
     
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    I agree with most of this... As to what you said, there are a few ban appeals where players have had to get involved to tell a complete story. An example would be my ban appeal, which was early 2014. I had to get a player to confirm that it was just a game, which happened to be Yellow. I do realize that it gets into unwanted conversation.
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    I personally am not going to support this unless there is a way for moderators to possibly give people permissions to enter a ban appeal. Such as adding specific players upon approval. Otherwise.. yes it tends to bring in unwanted and irrelevant conversation.
     
  7. Mattosaurus
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    I think that number 2) should be allowed to be honest, look below for reasons.

    Report a mod procedure (from how I've seen it):

    Report.
    Mod replies.
    Mod talks way out of demotion/punishment.
    Problem solved.

    Report a player procedure:

    Report.
    Player banned/warned/muted instantly. No player being able to explain themselves if they see it (the report).

    Don't take this to heart, and if I did offend anyone by this I'm sorry; it's not my intentions, and it will never be. However, this is my opinion on how I've seen and experienced it.
     
  8. Krissy
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    That's only because mods actions are not always as simple as getting logs to prove do or a screenshot. Players generally report:
    Bridging
    Griefing
    Looting
    Scamming
    Spam
    Advertising
    Swearing in PM

    Players that report mods often are unhappy with:
    A kick
    A ban
    Being ignored.

    Mods need to explain their actions through a report. Players need to explain their actions through a ban appeal. Mods need to still continue on moderating until they are demoted of resign.
    Remembering there are appeals and reports that don't have proof don't result in a player being banned.
     
  9. AbruptBalloon1
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    To report a mod, some has to have happened. You cannot report them for being unhappy that they kicked you, there must be a legitimate reason.

    For example, when I recently reported blaq, it was out of fear that he was going to ban me for 21 days because I had been unbanned and I had no clue how I got unbanned. He had already banned me 3 times before that in that small period of time where the bans ran short. Of course, this was proven to be a mistake on his end.

    There needs to be something serious to report.
     
  10. BryanTran1
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    They could report for abusing mod power right?
     
  11. AbruptBalloon1
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    Yes, but a lot of the time, players just report because they feel that they had a minor unfair ban, when in reality, you should only report for something big. My repeated ban over something I had no control over would be considered abuse, but if blaq had just banned me once, for a reason that I may not like though it is valid, it would not be reportable.
     
  12. Krissy
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    It doesnt stop them from reporting.
    It wrote this when I was tired. I forgot about legit reports.
     
  13. AbruptBalloon1
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    It doesnt stop them, yes, but the report gets thrown out which makes them think that mods dont have consequences. Which will normally end up causing more conflict.

    Again, I use blaq and I as an example. When I reported Dew a few months ago and was not given proper chance to explain in my report, blaq banned me for false report of a mod and it ended up causing much more conflict.
     
  14. XDisawesome
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    Howabout this:

    1. Rewrite the rules.
    2. Make it so everyone can read the appeals/reports sections, but not reply to them. Those associated with the ban/report can then message a mod about it.
     
  15. Adrian_Monk_
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    No support. I do think the rules should be more specific, but I think that not allowing mods to make mistakes is a horrible idea. They are human after all, and nobody is perfect. With regards to "b" as you said, it isn't america. I would assume that if a bunch of idiots came in to every trial and started shouting off about whatever then the government would make things stricter than they are. This isn't a country, it's a minecraft server and website.
     
  16. Adrian_Monk_
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    This sounds good.
     
  17. Michal
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    Changed it to this.

    I agree with this.

    I like this.
     
  18. Michal
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    Do you guys feel this should be a website suggestion?
     
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    I agree with Purple.
     
  20. Mattosaurus
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    So do I.don fkn ow whether I've supported the new suggestion yet, so (re)support.
     

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