Mods need to be more strict with appeals...

I generally never unban those I catch breaking the rules.

 

I myself believe in 2nd chanses. I know when i see someone who doesnt know the rules and when i see someone who breaks rules on purpouse. I mean, how f'd up is it that im supposed to perm ban someone who figured out island farming and farmed without reading the rules.. Its all about the mods own judgement. If we were here to perm ban everyone that broke a single rule there it would just ho ridiculous.. Just so u know i never ban anyone if i dont have to. I rather just warn them and fix it if it isnt overly bad..

 

I agree

 

I have to say, most of the people we get in the ban appeals section are new players who haven't learned the rules yet, at which point we tell them the rules and they do it again. Those that had never broken the rules before, but knew what the rules were and thought they could get any with it are left with a tempban and the knowledge that we are on top of our stuff and how it feels to be banned. Repeat offenders are treated much more severely because it means that they completely ignored whatever the mod had said to them in their last appeal. It really comes down to the player's attitude in the appeal however. A rude first time offender can get a perm, but a person that has made 3 mistakes in a row, but is very apologetic might be able to stay on the server. We don't like banning people, but when we see that it's causing a problem for other players and for the server as a whole, we deal with them as such. We're really just looking to see that it doesn't happen again. If that means you not coming back, so be it.

 

Mods will never become more strict with appeals and this is why: monetary greed. They don't make money, but admin does.

17,000 players were unbanned by admin. Then suddenly donor upgrading was on sale.

If mods were tougher, more people would be banned and that doesn't make money.

 

Nope.

Believe it or not, we don't like banning players. Is it really that hard to believe? My heart is not made of stone, guys. I don't like taking away what is fun from people who are enjoying themselves. It's just that when one person ruins the time of 15 other players, well, you have to make a decision.

 

Ok I kind of changed my mind. (90% no support) I saw a appeal that I thought got away to easily..

 

I find this kind of a weird suggestion. In that, all the mods are different and they handle the appeals differently. So saying "Everyone be more strict" just feels really odd.

Anyway, for my two cents, I'd just like to point out that we don't really know what goes on in each appeal. Everything always looks different from the outside looking in. Yes, there's a forums appeal that's public and that we can read, but they may have talked to the player in game before the ban, they may be talking to them in a private message or maybe they've discussed the situation with other mods and found out this player is usually really good and was likely just confused. So there's that.

As well, as has been said, there's some young kids on this site. You have to remember that kids are still developing their sense of right and wrong. Doing things in a video game where they can't see the other people being hurt by their actions, it may not seem so bad until they have it pointed out to them. They deserve at least a second chance, keep in mind that most, if not all of the ban appeals that are accepted fast, are first time offenders. By the time the mod has a chance to handle the appeal, that player has had a "time out", long enough to put a good scare into some of them.

Don't get me wrong, there's been times when I've seen someone unbanned, and my jaw dropped a little. But the mods are balancing the server's best interests and the player's best interests as well as they can. They make tough choices to make sure everything stays smooth on the server, while not banning so many players that it turns into a ghost town.

Basically, it all boils down to no support. I mean, if there's a mod who really is being too generous with the unbans, I'm sure the other mods (who know the whole stories might I add), would pick up on it and it would be dealt with. Trust in the staff.

 

Mods are rather lenient, unless someone has committed a serious offense. I know in my time I unbanned more people than I didn't. I really, really dislike keeping people away. It's kind of a "Hey, if you don't do it again, it'll be okay" situation. if they do something wrong after being unbanned, they're gone. They just like to create more opportunities to have happy players.

 

People would start to dislike the mods they liked. An admin has more power. As mods they're nice, but when they become admin they're a little more strict (and swear more often). I've played on a server where nearly all the staff were extremely rude. They always said the F word, C word, and all that stuff. Now I'm thinking "Wow, that's how you treat players? I won't appeal, and I hope your server loses its popularity." And besides, it's hard to find 'good' servers nowadays. All that pvp and stuff. In 1.3 I could easily find a good server. Now that it's nearly time for 1.8 to come out, I'm like "WILL YOU STOP WITH THE PVP SERVERS?!" Literally. I even googled 'no pvp' and bam. PvP servers. The Internet is retarded now. The bold words should be given most attention. And if you rate my post 'Dumb' I hope you have a good explanation.

 

Sorry bat, needed example.
http://www.skyblock.net/threads/batsleeper-alt-scamming-grace.45914/
But seriously, banned for duping, unbanned for alt scamming. Like seriously? Unbanned for duping because I believed he was truly sincere. But banned again? Like, no joke, 2 of the biggest rules broken and unbanned again. Later on Ill be able to advertise, grief, and scam and be unbanned.

Yes they do need to be more strict. Not long before people grief and get unbanned like it's not even an challenge.

 

OT but if you google by putting a - in front of a word or a phrase in "quotes", it will search for things that dont have that first. e.g. "Good Minecraft Server -PVP"

 

All I'm trying to say here is that mods, in general, need to stop letting people off the hook when they break very serious rules, especially rules that are obvious even without reading them. In my last post, I said that Dirty was good with all of his appeals. I wasn't trying to point Dirty out as being the best mod or anything, all I was saying was that every appeal I've seen where Dirty was the banning mod, he was fair, unlike some other appeals I've seen. Of course, not all other appeals have been unfair, just a few I've seen in the last few days. But I think those few need to stop. In about 1/3 of the appeals I've seen, people say they should be unbanned because they "love the server" and "want to play with their friends again". These are the people that are so desperate to get back on, they don't bother taking 1 minute to read the suggestions Cyp personally posted at the top of the section. I just think mods should give these people tougher punishments because I see a lot of these kinds of people getting unbanned. I just feel all mods should stop letting people off the hook too easy.

 

1. Have you been a victim of anyone that got unbanned?
2. And you give a crap because?

 

The thing is we're not looking for an eye for an eye. As long as the crime stops, we've done our job and couldn't care less whether the player is on the server or not.

 

First of all, I have been a victim of mass grief on the server once. Although I never found out if he had done it before, I definitely did not want that person being unbanned any time soon.

 

That's just your anger talking. You have to think of every case as you would like someone to treat you.

 

May I ask why this post is useful?