More of a "why was I banned?" appeal.

Discussion in 'Appeals Archive' started by Theway2cool1, May 28, 2013.

  1. Theway2cool1
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    Before I begin filling in this format, allow me to assure you, Noobcrew, that I'm not asking to be unbanned. I simply want to know why you demoted/banned me.
    1. Server name (.net / .org): Both.
    2. In-game name: Theway2cool1
    3. Full exact Ban Message: Banned by an operator.
    4. Did you read the rules ? yuppers
    5. Why do YOU think you were banned? Well, my guess is that Noobcrew didn't like the fact that I was ranting about him not listening to anyone but his admins. I don't really understand why you're going to ban me for that, you could at least just tell me to stop before doing that.
    6. Was this an incorrect ban? I don't know... I guess?
    7. Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? Yeah. Got tempbanned a couple times when I accidentally turned on fly hack, and that whole episode with nuny and Gwism. None were for actually intentionally breaking the rules, though.
    8. Why do you think you should be unbanned? To be honest, I don't really care if I'm unbanned. Again, all I ask for is an explanation as to why I'm banned in the first place. With that said, don't assume that I'm going to play nice if you just ignore this, Crew. You and I both know that I'm willing to get myself into trouble if I don't think something is right. Just explain why I was banned, and I'll let this go.
     
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    When I asked, he told me you were banned for disrespect. I do not understand the complete story but that's all I know. I'm sure you can fill in the blanks such as the story and situation.
     
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    That's pretty hilarious.
    Alright, here's what went down:

    I saw ISuika's thread ranting about .net, so I had to go check it out myself. I saw that we had EssentialsLite instead of Essentials, and there was still no logging plugin installed. So naturally, being me, I had to complain about it. My exact words were "all mods are now are chat police." When a few people responded to it, and some asked why their commands weren't working, I said that they blamed all the lag on Essentials, and put in EssentialsLite. Someone said "do you think maybe we could start a petition to bring back Essentials?" to which I replied "no, Noobcrew never listens to his users. He only listens to his admins." Someone said "and his developers," and I said "no, if he listened to his developers, I wouldn't be sitting here complaining about it."
    It was shortly after that when my name turned green, and then about 20 seconds later I was banned.

    Now, please let me get something straight. As much as I hate to put unrelated people into this situation, I have to if I'm going to word this correctly.

    So, Strommaniac ruins .org's economy (inadvertently or not), and he gets to come back.
    Vampiretolu griefed mass amounts of islands, disrespected the staff, and he got to come back what, 6 times before we finally perm banned him?

    But as soon as I say that Noobcrew doesn't listen to his players, it's a cold, hard, permanent ban? Please explain that.

    Edit: I also said that Noobcrew's new host sucks. And that the forums go down every 20 minutes for me. For the sake of being completely honest, I should add that.
     
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    I wish that no one replies here unless they have specific information to add including mods. All off topic posts will be dealt with accordingly.
     
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    Oh, there's also another thing I'd like to add.
    I banned AT LEAST 100 spam bots from the forums when that was a problem. I developed plugins for Noobcrew on my own time, expecting nothing in return (and I got nothing in return, considering not a single one of them has been used since the very first day I began developing.) I've given Noobcrew so much advice that would potentionally better the server, and he was not even willing to give any of it a try.
    Listen, I've been far too kind for far too long. I don't appreciate being ignored, especially at this time when my parents are constantly at each other's throats after I've told them several times that it bothers me. Crew, you have no right to talk to me about disrespect.
     
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    My name is in this thread now so I demand a say in this.

    I think noobcrew has a difficult time handling criticism since he has made such a succesful server, everybody rides his d*** all day long, and nobody ever says something back to him. It has been the cause of alot of issues and alot of mistakes being made, hurting the server.

    Theway was right on every word he said, crew rarely listens to players, probably because of the giant amount of players bothering him with useless junk every single day.

    I don't feel like theway should be banned for stating the truth, it's not very smart to do it in the public chat though, as it can cause alot of chaos and trouble.
     
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    I knew I liked you for a reason. It's good to see that there's some people on the internet that actually think. Anyways, I stand by what I say. Noobcrew does not respond to his players unless they're responding to something he specifically asked for (e.g. his "looking for a GFX designer" thread.) I still think the new host sucks too.

    Now, allow me to further explain why I believe it's bullshit that Essentials could possibly be the source of all the server's lag.
    Never, has Essentials EVER caused any significant lag on any server I've ever seen before. Essentials is a well written, well optimized plugin. The only thing that causes essentials to lag is when it automatically checks for AFK players. I still believe that the cause of the lag is the new host. Never did anyone think Essentials could have been the problem on the old host, but suddenly when we switch, Essentials decides it wants to lag? It doesn't work that way.
     
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    I would like to say this before the crowd flips:

    Theway does have a lot to say on everything, so does stromm. It didn't bother me theway was just trying to make the server more, proffesional.

    Sadly, he began picking on me, criticizing me on every action I took. I didn't like that at all. I'm not saying you were the only one doing that, some other staff and even some regular players did that aswell.

    Though all that isn't worth a demotion/ban, just a warning.
     
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    If you're referring to me aswell, I never ment to pick on you, I just mess with people.

    Zoof! Back to topic though. I don't understand why this is such a big deal. and most of all, I don't understand how this is worth banning a great developer.
     
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    Unfortunately, I actually agree with this. Theway2cool1 for the most part I agree with you in some aspects, but I'm not going to publically denounce my opinions. You were a good developer, often unappreciated, and I know that feel bro. I at times have blown up and gone crazy with this server. It's the reason why I don't do anything anymore. But I'll be honest, you kind of just left staff. You don't deserve a permanent ban though.
     
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    I didn't mean to target you specifically, it just got to a point where I lost all ability to give a f*** and nobody was going to escape my wrath.


    Anyways, back on topic. I seriously doubt that Crew will even acknowledge this thread's existence. I'd just like to say that I'm going to be finished playing nice if he ignores me now like he always ignores me, and as he does to all of his players. Why do you think he's vanished every time he logs in? He cares too much about the server, and not enough about the people that make the server what it is. Or... what it used to be, rather.
     
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    This was not meant to be a ban, just a demotion. I only banned you as I feared that you would give out spawned items after being demoted. I wrote a ban message stating that however /ban in the new plugin is not finished and therefore I had to use the default /ban command within bukkit which does not display such info. As you know, I did indeed demote you because of your mocking of the server and myself. I can take criticism just fine, but if it's coming from a person whom's suppose to be an authority figure of which people abide to for knowledge of the server then it is more than an insult as many people took your blatant lie into consideration of being true.

    I vanish because I get mass spammed with private messages that I do not have the capability of taking care of, I rather be unavailable than someone being upset because I didn't answer their question.

    The players make up the server, and you're right I guess I do care too much for it.
     
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    Essentials was practically on par with chunk loading/unloading.
    The check for AFK players has always been disabled.
    Here is the results of one of the exams using Nolagg.
    [​IMG]

    A well written and optimized plugin should never be able to do something like this.
     
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    I just wanted to point that until you removed Essentials, I was seeing being get kicked for 20 minutes AFK, over and over again. Maybe you didn't mean to enable it, but it was definitely enabled by someone at some point.
     
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    Code:
    # Auto-AFK Kick
    # After this timeout in seconds, the user will be kicked from the server.
    # essentials.afk.kickexempt node overrides this feature.
    # Set to -1 for no timeout.
    auto-afk-kick: -1
     
    # Should we automatically remove afk status when the player moves?
    # Player will be removed from AFK on chat/command regardless of this setting.
    # Disable this to reduce server lag.
    cancel-afk-on-move: false
    
    hope it helps, these are two change to reduce essentials lag :)
     
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    I must have had it enabled for some time then, however it's been disabled for awhile.
     
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    Yeah, these were disabled.
    The lag within essentials was due to PlayerLogin event. And there's no way to go about reducing it.
     
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    That's sort of what we are doing, instead we are just taking the stuff we need from it and combining it all into a much smaller lightweight plugin.
     
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    That's odd. I've never noticed any lag from Essentials resulting from PlayerLoginEvent. But really, I highly doubt that's the only reason. On your new host, it takes at least 3 seconds for me to run /top. That never happened on the old host.

    Curious, when did I ever lie?
     
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    By the way, if it wasn't even meant to be a ban, why am I still banned? :l
     

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