Denied An attempt to build a bridge.

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    1. Server name (.net / .org ): forums
    2. In-game name: Stel
    3. Full exact Ban Message: Three months
    4. Did you read the rules ? Yes
    5. Why do YOU think you were banned? disrespect
    6. Was this an incorrect ban? It was misunderstood.
    7. Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? If so, what for? many times, search in the appeal section.
    8. Why do you think you should be unbanned?
    Firstly, You can't bend rules and keep me banned on an account which was stated the next time I was banned it would be a ONE MONTH bann! This proves in itself that you're making up rules. Take in note the ban length

    Harassment in itself is a
    1 month Ban (75 points) Points will last 2 weeks after being unbanned.

    Note: If the infraction escalation does not go up further, the last infraction stated will be repeated for as long as the user chooses to commit said actions.

    As you can see above it states that the infraction will be repeated for as long as the user chooses to commit said actions.

    Staff are making up rules and bending them which create loopholes. This in itself is breaking a rule.



    I would like to know why I am banned again?
    Seeing the picture posted in my last appeal I can assure you that I was talking about Config

    A prostaglandins is a compound:
    The prostaglandins are a group of physiologically active lipid compounds having diverse hormone-like effects in animals. Prostaglandins have been found in almost every tissue in humans and other animals.

    I can assure you that this is an unfair outcome and I feel as if it's biased







    Regarding emerald closing the appeal, he has no right to, he is biased and clearly not suitable for staff. This appeal is for Akrill only.


    If you close it I will report you for abusing permissions, taking over an appeal, being biased, and much more which I have stored in a folder on my computer;)


    I'm tagging mods who are post-pubescent and don't have biased outbursts.

    Krissy Kerahna Lemonade


    You cannot ban me for three months, hence why there is no option on the forums to ban me for three months.


    Also, saying that you won't unban me because I have had too many chances is contradictory in many ways, firstly it's an appeal, secondly, you're not the banning mod and I was also told AND shown in the rules it'd be a one month ban.

    Another thing as I stated this ban is incorrect.


    And you cannot deny t without an investigation which interviews Config.

    I can also provide proof (via text message) that orange and I are good friends and have had a ton of banter.
     
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    Akrill is busy right now, if you want only him to respond then you will have to wait a while
     
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    Regarding emerald closing the appeal, he has no right to, he is biased and clearly not suitable for staff. This appeal is for Akrill only.


    If you close it I will report you for abusing permissions, taking over an appeal, being biased, and much more which I have stored in a folder on my computer;)



    Actually this is a staff ban, all staff will deal with this
     
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    Alright, sorry for taking so long to respond. I've had a lot on my plate lately.

    To kick it off, while I am indeed in charge of ban and appeal, I was informed of something by the rest of the staff after issuing the first punishment. It was completely my bad that the initial ban length was so short.
    To sum up what I was informed about; I was not aware of this, but the entire staff team had agreed prior to this that you were to be subject to significantly harsher punishments (adjusted to what kind of rule you were breaking).

    I wasn't aware of this and the others did request me to give my permission to adjust your punishment to match their previous decision. And so it was done. That's why the original 1 week ban was extended to 3 months.
    With the help of our Forum Admin, we have a bit more leeway to customize your punishements.

    This section was simply to hopefully clear up a bit of how we went about it, just in case you were wondering.
    I'll move on to answering your appeal.

    Yes, while bending rules is highly frowned upon by all of us, I truly don't believe that when it comes to your situation any rules have been bent.
    The most popular definition of bending rules seems to be; "to do something or allow someone to do something that is not usually allowed, especially in order to make things easier on one occassion".
    n appeal, secondly, you're not the banning mod and I was also told AND shown in the rules it'd be a one month ban.
    Now, I don't want people to take this quote and try to apply it willy nilly everywhere, in hope of causing doubt, confusion or ambiguity. I'm using this here for a very specific reason.
    We have not done something or allowed an individual to twist our rules just so we can punish you. This was a wholesome discussion that the entirety of the staff, minus me as I missed it, agreed to. This is so we would all be on the same page on how you would be handled if you broke the rules again. And our goal wasn't to make it easier to handle you, it was to have a clear structure on how to handle you.

    I do apologize, but quoting the guideline about how to regulate you will not be of any use in this case. All those guidelines in the thread serve us as a basis and try guide us to the most correct action when we need it.
    They apply on the vast majority of players, for the vast majority of occassions, for the majority of the staff. That's what they use when they are uncertain of what to do.

    Making up our own rules just to bend them seems quite inefficient. If we were doing this, we would simply tailor the rules for who we would want to apply them to.


    The original ban would be the harassment of another user.
    The exact instance of which the ban was issued for is the following:
    To be extremely specific, the primary reason is the first underlined comment. In the bigger picture, you joined in on the harassment that Queen was first to do in this case, after which you created your own profile post directed towards the user. This is harassment.

    Addressing your assurance of who the second underlined commant was directed towards;
    You are free to claim that you were directing it towards Config, but the screenshot and the way you were talking testifies so strongly against you that we don't have a reasonable choice other than deducting that you're attempting to be ambigious yet again. That is how others could see it. However, to me it looks like you're directly addressing the user in question, not Config, calling him a prostaglandins infected wart. It can quite easily be argued that this is devaluing him. As you quoted:

    "The prostaglandins are a group of physiologically active lipid compounds having diverse hormone-like effects in animals. Prostaglandins have been found in almost every tissue in humans and other animals."

    This implies that he is simply a mass that only revolves around hormones, which on top of that is implied that he is an infected wart so that he isn't even functioning properly.
    This analyze is only really applicable if you did refer to the harassed user. And it has been decided that you were.


    While you do have the right to demand certain things, such as who gets to handle it and why, we also have the right to ignore those demands. Just my thoughts on this.
    I am glad that people did respect the fact that I was in charge of this appeal though.
    I highly advice against conducting threats, as you will dig your own hole even deeper. You are by no means in a good position right now.

    As I said before, we now have more options available to us with our Forum Admin. With her assistance, we can get through a lot more things easier, compared to the period of time where we did not have one.
    What I'm trying to say is that now we do have the option to ban you for an X amount of time, therefore you can be banned for the amount of time that has been decided.

    I would like to say that we can in fact say that we won't unban you solely because of the amount of chances you have had in the past. This is not contradictory in any way imaginable. In fact, I can't imagine anything more logical. You have time and time again proved to all of us that you don't care about your previous offence, your chance and you instead squander it at the first best opportunity. Anyone who is willing to give you a chance at this point is quite severely delusional.
    While it's an appeal, it's not contradictory to say you won't be unbanned. At this stage, your appeals are pretty much reiterations. Nothing has drastically changed from as far as I can remember, up until this point. The only inconsistency is staff for some reason accepting your appeals.
    I do agree to a certain extent that as they weren't the banning mod, they should reserve themselves a little bit while handling the appeal. However, there are two very important things to note. The first being that I was unavailable for some time, thus requesting other staff to handle it on my behalf. The second is that the entirety of the staff team is in on your ban and in unison on the way it's being handled. The only one that has chosen to stay out of this is Cypriot.

    I'm not aware of who told you that it was going to be a one month ban. Out of curiosity, would you mind letting me know? It is not a requirement for you to tell me, as it's not of any weight to this appeal.
    Regardless, the one who told you that it was going to be but a month's ban has failed to update you on the fact that our collective decision on how to handle you was changed. It was a miss in communication that resulted in you perhaps being unready for the punishment. It is not incorrect though. My personal request is that whoever verbally told you about the one month ban and didn't update you on the new decision apologizes to you for missing it. I feel that that is appropriate.
    As I said, the thread's guideline is but that. A guideline.

    While you raise a fair point that we should ask Config about this, I must invalidate his testimony as I don't believe he will tell the truth in this situation. This is because he took part of the harassment you and Queen conducted, instead of marking against it. The reason he wasn't punished is because of how little involvement it was. But this is an entirely different matter.

    I'm not sure what proving your friendship between yourself and Orange would do. If you would clarify what you mean by this I would consider accepting to view this proof, assuming that it's a valid enough reason.



    I do believe I covered every single thing I could in this.
    Is there anything you would like to bring up, discuss or say before we continue?
     
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    would you like phone chat logs from the date that we said this stuff to each other??
     
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    One month was set as the minimum amount of time you would be banned for next. There's nothing keeping Akrill from banning you for three months.
     
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    Nah you said different.


    Anyways this ban is wrong and I can prove it with iphone chat logs proving orange and I went to call each other a prostaglandins
     
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    Literally just by coincidence I have these chat logs. Went to delete all of my messages yesterday then I was distracted. Pure chance I have this proof.


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    I mean, we don't take logs like that. That could be anyone you have been texting, we aren't going to know for sure. But Akrill will respond when he has a chance.
     
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    Please elaborate?


    I have submitted this as proof before.

    Also this is not to ban someone. It's to unban.
     
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    Unfortunately phone logs are not sufficient as there is several things that can be tampered with. Such as renaming your contact, asking the player to lie for you, texting yourself from another phone, and the fact he was also involved meaning he could testify anything. The part of your proof that is really interesting is the set up. The time on the clock is 2:18pm. The question and answer to the question both arrived at the same time. Also it talks about you and him in a skype call around this time. It isn't useful evidence to you to prove you are innocent.

    If you have any proof that actually exists on the forums that would help you then do post it.

    At this point the context is there to show that you were not talking about Orange.
    The disrespectful/harassment part was the top comment and the only thing not addressed, even in the screenshots with Orange.

    I am not the right person to handle your case. For many reasons I cannot decide if the punishment is excessive or whether the amount of times you indirectly harass others has lead to this punishment. I know little about what happened at all. I can only suggest you find something solid to back up your claims.
     
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    Firstly, why would I dedicate time and money to cop myself an unban.

    Yes, he does reply, because we are close friends and a phone makes a noise when it rings lol

    This has been used as proof before to cop someone an innocent tag. So ?? Bias
     
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