Mod-sanctioned bullying of players?

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  1. xphstos37
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    Did any one else get reply-banned without notice and their answers deleted from vfhuuuuu's application thread? Or was it just the players who were against how the non-supports that broke forum rules were being allowed?
    Please check and let me know.

    And perhaps does anyone know what rule I broke here that got this answer deleted?
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    EDIT: Thanks, Krissy. Turns out, vfhuuuuu's mod application has not been cleaned up yet and that only 2 members were reply-banned from it. Am wondering who the other player is. Please find me. Also, on at least 4 occasions I reported that thread for rules violations in comments, I was told it had been cleaned up already the last time.

    Note: Working on screenshots of replies that didn't break forum rules and were left behind, and also one of mods repeatedly defending applicants they like.

    ^ ^ ^ Changed my mind, as the applicant has closed his app, so none of this matters. The thread is closed and will be left as is without it being further cleaned up, so there is no point. To see mods repeatedly defending applicants, see J's app.
     
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    From what I can see two people are reply banned. The thread has yet to be cleaned up. A reply ban is to stop players creating further flame. Mod apps should more be about support and no support than creating discussions. The applicant should be defending themselves if they are serious about their application.
     
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    My posts, being quite similar to these, weren't deleted and I wasn't reply banned. But people were asked not to go off topic and on applications you're meant to give a support/no support and a reason. Any arguments/clearing things up is best done in PM if it can't fit in a single reply.
     
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    well i doubt any mods like vfhuu and are defending him lol
     
  5. xphstos37
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    If my answer got deleted because I repeatedly defended him, I am just wondering why mods are allowed to do the exact same thing on applications they support, or as MindSensation says here, are we all only allowed to, once?
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    Where are examples of staff continuously defending applicants? More than just once? Where it is causing flame and issues and spam on the application? It would help back up what you are saying.
     
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    MindSensation clearly said "If you're inclined to defend the applicant, do so once." There is no exceptions. It isn't really a forum rule, but maybe the user applying requested that people only reply once. If that is the case, that is why he said that. I say there is no further discussion on this, because all I see is drama coming up, but that is only my opinion.
     
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    More like mods posting supports/answering to non-supports three times or more on a mod app. I will work on putting all the screenshots together tonight.
    Can you tell me why my above answer was deleted?
     
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    He said it on page ten. The thread used to be 8 pages and was cut to 4 then is now up to 10. What rule do you think I broke with my answer that was deleted? And why was only that removed? The applicant directly asked a mod to get off his mod app and that was disregarded, so how can it be ok for one player to get their support removed and not for all the rest of the players and the mods?
     
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    Okay, I am not a mod and don't know the situation. Not up to me to determine. Try asking Mind himself.
     
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    I have, but it's not all the mods I'm referring to, nor Mind alone...there were more mods on that app who completely disregarded the rules being broken in the comments because they didn't support a player who claims to be homophobic and doesn't believe in God.
     
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    And why am I banned there. I just created my own opinion about what xphostos was saying. I didn't even fully agree with her though I completely saw what she was saying and now mods don't like this?

    Can I appeal a ban like this? Who was our banning mod?
     
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    Just you and me, Cheesy...we were the only ones reply banned from that thread.
    We weren't supporting what he was saying, I was defending him and you said the bullying was wrong, and only we were kept from that app. Did you get a notification?
    It makes me laugh, how obvious and true the topic of this thread is.

    Idk if we can appeal it or who did it, sorry.
     
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    Didn't expect you to know the last part. I'm confused why we're prevented from posted there and yet people will continuously remind and harass him how immature or homophobic he is.

    That's like me calling out someone for being fat. How would you guys like that I call you fat multiple times even if it is technically true but not needed at all.

    The moderators that made this decision in my opinion definitely need to revise what they did and ban other people if anything from that thread.

    And about the notification, you mean a notification about being banned? No I did not if that's what you mean.
     
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    Without notice?
    You mean you weren't warned four separate times?
    xphstos, you were banned because you attempted to continue arguing even after you were warned four times not to. I understand that you're upset about the constant stream of hate coming Vfhuuu's way, but it had gotten to the point of where you were harassing and getting into arguments with almost every no supporter of his application.

    You replied after my post to see if I would actually reply ban you (let's be honest, you had a screenshot preprepared of your post), and, guess what, I did. I also reply banned cheesy, as he continued to be off topic from the application and continued arguing with other players. Both of you are welcome to message players who may be harassing him or report their posts, and we'll do our best to deal with it, as we have.

    You're right, others previously were also spamming the application. They haven't done so after my last warning, and if they do, in fact, do so, they'll be reply banned as well.

    If you're trying to say that we're sanctioning bullying on our server, you couldn't be further from the truth. Both your posts and the people you were attempting to argue with were deleted. If there's anything left, it's because it's somewhat challenging to find normal posts amidst a vast sea of deleted spam.

    Please stop trying to distort the truth.
     

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    and I suppose the same reason for me?
     
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    Yeah I think I mentioned you. Check my second paragraph.
     
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    If you mean the warnings on the thread itself, which I only saw 2 of, why didn't you enforce not allowing off-topic posts right after your first warning? Did you delete your own other 2 warnings??
    I wasn't arguing, I replied to a question asked of me, which I was told by a mod was allowed on a mod app... if you are referring to the only post of mine that was deleted. As regards the rest of my comments, I asked for that thread to be cleaned up 4 times, and only when you decided last night to punish me since I posted my answer after your last comment, did I get reply banned for it. As if the first 3 sweeps didn't find me argumentative enough to warrant removal of my responses.
    Actually, I saw you posted while I was writing my answer. I saw what you said so I decided to reference it and took a screenshot. What I find completely biased is that my comment was deleted and I was banned from the thread, as was Cheesy, and no one else?? You found 2 people who publicly stated their offence to the bullying and rule-breaking on the thread, and not the bullies themselves? That shows you are punishing us because of what we believe, which was the problems with the entire thread.
    I did report their posts, individually, the entire thread a few times and I wrote mods personally, are you saying I should have written the players themselves, too?? I asked the only people who can do anything about it, the mods, to take care of it...but you didn't. You all let this happen...you let the thing get out of control and allowed the majority of commenters to get away with breaking rules on that thread because of the bs he was saying in-game. Here is what you left behind on the 10 pages:
    Emerald - 6 comments, benji - 7 comments, Anon - 8 comments, Shmoo - 6 comments, Natalia - 4 comments, xphstos - 5 comments, FatheroS - 4 comments, Cyborg - 8 comments, ExtraS - 4 comments, Roblox - 4 comments, Will2K - 5 comments...you can double check the numbers, if you like.
    What about going back and reply banning a few of the players who were bullying the applicant? Would that not take better care of the problem than only banning 2 people, who both happened to be defending what should have been happening in that thread in the first place?
    YES, I am directly stating some mods are NOT defending players from bullying. My posts were not deleted, except for my last one...so why are you punishing me for defending a player on whose app the rules weren't being enforced? All of you mods who saw my reports know how frustrated I was. When I asked Krissy to clean it up, it went from 8 pages to 4...when you cleaned it up, it went from 10 full to 10 and a half, half a page of comments were removed out of 6 pages? There are some left and it is a sea of spam, but is spamming an app allowed? Remove all my posts, I don't care...but apply the rules to the rest of the app, too.
    Your only applying the bans to the two of us out of that entire cesspool of hate is not distortion of truth, it is fact.
     
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    Oh, congratulations to the haters and mods for "winning"...he has closed his app and is taking an extended break.
    Great job.
     
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    and he specifically states the reason of it is how much negativity he's getting. Smh.
     
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