FORUMS: No deleting Negative Ratings

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  1. xphstos37
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    I've noticed a few mods like to delete any negative ratings they get. Just because they have the ability to do so, I don't think they should.
    I suggest mods not be allowed to delete their own negative ratings. If they are rate abused, they should report it to another mod, and the player having done so should be warned.
     
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    I'm pretty sure most of us already consult another moderator if an unfair rating was issued.
     
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    does it even matter though - it's just a rating ?
     
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    Most, not all.
    It matters enough to some staff members. Enough to remove legitimate ratings at least.
     
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    Without a player being warned for rate abuse, it should not be deleted at all is what I'm suggesting.
     
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    I've seen several mods do this myself, support.
     
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    That is exactly why it matters. Some people pay way too much importance on rates that don't matter, yet there are rules and a process that is to be followed when rate abuse occurs. If you disagree with something a mod has posted, then you come back to find the rate gone and you have no warning for it, does that not seem an abuse of power?
     
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    First of all, how have you "noticed" this occurring? Has a moderator admitted to you to doing this? How do you know they're not consulting with other moderators in the first place? Because there's no way for you to know who exactly is removing those ratings, and it's a big step to assume that it's the moderator themselves.

    What Love said is correct. We do consult with other moderators before deleting our own ratings, as it would be unfair and abusive to do so in the case of a fair rating.

    If your rating was removed and you disagree with the removal, feel free to report the post. If we decide that the removal is unjust, we'll talk to whoever removed it. Then you can re-rate it. Otherwise, don't jump to assumptions.
     
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    You're wrong.
     
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    I disagreed with one comment a mod made today and got a warning for it immediately after. I went back to the post straight away and the rate was gone. Sure, it is possible that mod told another mod about it, and that other mod removed it, however, it was the same mod and not the other one who mailed me the warning. Additionally, since when is one disagree an abuse of ratings?

    Not all of you.

    Didn't jump to anything, don't YOU assume I have no legit cause to make this suggestion, it is something many people in the community have noticed about various mods. They dislike getting dislikes so they remove them.
     
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    PM me or another moderator the name, post, and rating given, as well as a screenshot of the warning. I never assumed you were being thoughtless in posting this, I simply wanted to make sure there was an actual valid reason with proof behind the making of this thread.

    Otherwise, my statement still stands. Moderators don't abuse, and if they do, they are punished for it. If you see suspicious behavior regarding ratings, report it and it will be dealt with by a different moderator.
     
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    I've tried, like when Akrill deleted all of Cyp's negative ratings on the Top 5 Dec post. How do you think that went each time? lol...ugh

    No need to raise a stink about the mod who deleted my disagree today, I actually thank him for doing so and for writing me that warning, it helped me decide to make this post.
     
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    Half of the negative ratings I get are rate abuse to begin with. But yeah support.
     
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    Report them if they are, that is against the rules. If I dislike a mod's or player's comment, they 9/10 times dislike something I say, after. That's not abuse, though, doing it once or twice on a thread within an hour. I don't think I've ever been rate abused in the technical sense.
     
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    No support. We would just get rate abused.
     
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    Because no other mods exist, right? lmao


    I find it extremely unsettling that a thread like this has to be made. Clearly a problem has arisen around mods deleting their own negatives, so this thread was made. While this is a suggestion, this will never be accepted as it puts a mod restriction and putting a mod restriction in place suggested by a player doesn't look good. As Love__ said,
    which is a good thing, but
    is a problem. I feel on most decisions that can be given time, consulting another mod can never hurt, no matter your mod "status" here. I'd argue there are tmods who know more than smods, so I think all mods should have to consult each other for decisions that don't have to be made on the spot. Of course, I'm sure I'll be told this already happens and that what I'm saying is asinine as I'm suggesting that not all mods follow something I see as simple common sense.

    While yes, I think this should be implemented officially for mods, it won't be and even it was there would be mods saying they did when they didn't. This thread has a good point, but makes no change come to pass.

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    I agree with this, but I guess people do get a "nice feeling" when they receive positive ratings or a "sad feeling" when they receive negative ratings, so there will always be people who complain about ratings.
     
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    We delete our own ratings because we get rate abused trying to perform our jobs when people cannot deal with what we have said. If not, most staff leave it.
    Take that away staff will get bombarded with negatives and we can't do anything about it. There is no issue here except the fact the majority of people who make threads like this barely understand why staff have to act contrary to how players except us to.
     
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    It does matter. This is why there are rules about rate abuse.
     
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