cars are a net negative for society

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    again, not denying that it is the human that makes them dangerous. the issue is that the stakes are much higher in a car. not paying attention on a bike and hitting someone most likely will do minimal damage. on the other hand, in a car, you don't pay attention and you can get someone in the hospital or worse. also, what is your proposed solution? (also unban me from skyblock discord its been 2 years)
     
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    Once again it sounds like a human issue, although, I understand your concern that the risk of fatal accidents are higher but it’s because of humans not being careful. If all drivers would be careful and follow speed limits etc, bad and fatal damages would barely happen
     
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    I think pedestrians are a net negative to society they should be in cars
     
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    Nah guys cars are obviously dangerous! Look at all this amazing evidence to support that! It's totally the inanimate objects fault!
     
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    is that realistic though? just using less cars also limits the dangers of them. again, what are you proposing?
     
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    ur weird
     
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    Well, I feel like it is very realistic, if AI would drive the cars perfectly and be coded to drive as you should there would not be accidents. Accidents occur because humans are behind the string wheel, and that is proven. I don't need you to agree, but that is my opinion, it has been proven, and if you study for a license that is what you are taught.
     
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    Car accident is not alway the drivers fault. Many time it is the pedestrians fault, and even AI driving cannot fully prevent accident from pedestrian carelessness.
     
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    I believe pedestrians are humans too, which is the topic: if its the humans or the cars that are dangerous. But yeh I agree with you it may be the pedestrians fault sometimes
     
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    i am not disagreeing that cars accidents are caused by human error. cars use humans, that is why they are dangerous. a gun is usually not dangerous without a human to go and kill someone with. also, why spend wayyy more money on electric cars with smart ai to drive when you can just have public transportation and walkable cities? most people i know would like it better, and i think you might too.
     
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    this dude gotta be trolling... my friend was crossing a multi lane road in front of a grocery store when the walking hand was up. he was on a crosswalk. he got hit by some old guy looking the other way.
     
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    the topic is whether cars are good or bad for society. humans are dangerous, and putting millions of them behind multi ton machines with the power to kill is a bad idea.
     
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    Bikes are slow hence the rate of dying from one is less. Foot-powered bikes are less of an issue versus electric or motorized bikes. Anything that goes faster than a certain speed can be deadly. You don't see people people complaining about planes? Sure if a plane crashes its sometimes deadly but Planes have advanced in technology and safety systems so much that crashing is now really really rare (unless you're Boeing and decide to install a faulty software that nosedives a plane whenever).

    The same for trains. I literally ride the train at least twice a week and the level of safety systems in those has increased since I was born. I'm confident I can stand on a moving train at 80mph (in some cases 90mph) without holding onto any railing and I will not get injured one bit. I believe somewhere around 2018 (was pushed from 2015) US congress passed legislation requiring PTC (Positive Train Control) to be installed on tracks and on locomotives (engines moving a train) that basically ensured if a train were to go above a certain speed limit (or passed a red light) it the train will go into emergency. This was done in response of various train accidents that resulted in a lot of media attention in the United States (a recent one in 2017 with an Amtrak Train bound to Seattle derailing onto a freeway). Another to point out is trains often hit cars (PTC does not cover that) and that is due to the recklessness of drivers who fail to obey traffic warnings. In the end the car gets destroyed, the driver and passengers either get injured or die. The Train wins no matter the cause.

    Plenty of people drive cars so much its common for accidents to occur. In addition a lot of people are stupid to be on the road for whatever reason. But hey we can't remove them but we can minimize them. Proper education and being being taught while learning how to drive under close supervision is needed. When I was learning how to drive, I wasn't allowed to go over a certain speed limit even if the speed limit on the road was higher. I also was taught the consequences of what will happen and what will happen to me.

    We can't install safety systems like we do on planes and trains because it would be impractical (and the massive amount of lobbying that would go into that). Even if it meant less deaths (which is good) it would mean anyone who needs a car would pay far more. Insurance and fuel (due to increased weight) expenses would go up.
     
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    I hate humans whether they are driving, walking with children or otherwise.
     
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    good idea minimize cars less cars good
     

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