Show banned users on Most Messages list

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  1. Ca1
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    Hi, I am not sure why banned players are removed from the “Most Messages” list on the forums, yet they are still on the most positive& most negative ratings list. Please reinstate the banned members onto the most messages list!
     
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    if they're already there then i don't see why this doesn't exist. support!
     
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    Neutral.

    I believe they should be removed from the most positive/negative ratings list rather than allowing those banned accounts show up on all the lists. They're banned for a reason.
     
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    Amen.
    I personally believe that Banned accounts shouldn't appear on any lists, that way the Active, unbanned accounts have chances of being on there too :)
     
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    However then it is not really a true reflection of who has the Most Messages is it.
     
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    Well, if users are banned, why bother showing them on leaderboards? It doesn't mean the leaderboard isn't a true reflection, that would be like saying that ranking active sports players is illegitimate because you aren't including all the retired/inactive athletes in your rankings.

    The users were banned for good reason. The same reasons that athletes who cheat aren't included on ranking boards. Maybe not the best analogy, but I also support removing banned users from all top leaderboards.

    Update: changed rating to Neutral
     
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    That is not a fair comparison as no cheating had occurred and illegitimate messages are deleted. The leaderboards are also not ranking ‘active’ players like you say as it is ranking all time messages. I’d say it’s more accurate analogy would be removing someone’s Fastest 100 metre dash time out of the top 10 all time runs because they were charged with arson or something. The punishment does not affect the milestone!
     
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    i agree with megan and devan, but i also agree with boba. but mostly leaning toward the argument that banned users shouldn’t be shown on there at all. banned users should just be forgotten. i mean if one of the banned users was your best friend or something, then sure you can remember them yourself but generally speaking, most people wouldn’t want to remember someone who negatively impacted the server somehow someway, especially if said person did something really horrible to get banned. plus i feel like this change shouldn’t be a focus, the staff team’s focus currently is to update the server to a higher version.
     
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    What if it was a requested ban? No negative impact was dealt on the server so it should not have an effect on something called “most messages”, technically right now due to missing a few banned players it is not “most messages” but rather “most messages from unbanned players”
     
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    Support, the current lists are not a true reflection of who has put in the most effort!
     
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    Drogo doesn’t know if anyone can really say that anymore.
     
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    thennnnnn let the staff team decide who to keep/remove :popcorn:
     
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    Now here’s a really wacky idea. Why don’t we have it so the people on the “Most Messages” board are the people with…….the most messages?

    Drogo understands this bucks the servers trend of ignoring facts.

    Drogo doesn’t condone misrepresentation of data, but that’s just Drogo.

    Drogo will go with support because what use is a list if it’s wrong.
     
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    Following Devan's idea, neutral.

    I think a better option would be to remove them from the ratings too. Like he said, they are banned and therefore removed from the forums for a reason.
     
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    A banned user is not welcome, so why would we want their achievements to be shown? I know it sounds like "the other categories have it so why can't most messages" and that does make sense, but I feel like instead of adding it, it should remove the other things
     
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    But sometimes players are banned unfairly. I believe even you have been wrongly banned in the past?
     
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    I do not believe people’s achievements should be disregarded due to ban status (which as stated, may not always be for a negative reasoning), like I think most people would not support removing all banned players off /baltop or /is top or /reaction top, so I’m not too sure why it is differently for this.
     
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    I'm gonna have to also say no support. A user who earns a ban is unwelcome in the community for one reason or another. I see no reason to promote any of their content if they are no longer welcome here.
     
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    No. Be glad they are on the most positives and negatives.
     
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    Contradictory much
     

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