[SKYBLOCK SHOP] Item Price Changes

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  1. Emerald
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    Update: Grass has changed from 5 grass into 50 on the shop, however I believe it still needs a little rework still, as well as some other items on the shop.


    A suggestion for this has been made years ago for the classic server, however, I am not sure if one has been made for this server anytime recently. This suggestion is only for the Items section of the Skyblock shop.

    Currently, the rate at which gift cards have been sold in game is a stack of grass for $1 of a gift card. There are some prices on the shop that do not match with what an item is worth, and could use a change overall. These items are less commonly bought off of the shop, mainly due to the item amount/price.

    I am not saying to match prices with the 64:1 ratio of grass has to be made, as it could be seen as buying your grass from the Skyblock shop, and a gameplay advantage. If you were to match this ratio, some items would not be able to be bought off of the shop (such as a pig spawner, as it is not even a stack of grass). This suggestion is just for a revamp of prices/item count that is closer to that ratio, or makes more sense.

    Currently 10 grass in the shop costs $5.00. Even a stack of grass for $5.00 seems a lot more reasonable to me. 10 grass for $5 just kind of seems useless to a lot of people. A pig spawner also costs $5.00 in the shop, but its value is more than 10 grass. If you were to spend another $5, you would be able to purchase a beacon at $10 which goes around for 200 grass. However, you are able to buy 8 diamonds for $15.00, while you can spend the same amount and buy an elytra at the same price, 4 pig spawners, or a beacon + $5. 8 Diamonds on the shop having the same price as an elytra, really does not make sense at the moment. These prices have not matched with the community's, and it is a main reason why most of these items are regularly not bought off of the shop.

    You are also able to get 12 iron ingots for $6.50, which is a little too expensive when you could be getting a pig spawner for a cheaper price. Some of these prices are misleading, as you are able to buy some more expensive valued items for a lower price, than some items with a lower value but a higher price.

    Possibly some additions to new items in the shop and changes to the item amount received or a price change.


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    [​IMG] (Not worth it)

     
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    Some of these prices are insane if you really think about it. For example you can vote and get 3 grass (plus more if you're lucky) and a daily rewards we get too, and then vote parties. Grass is easy for anyone to get even if they aren't a donor. I do think that 10 grass should either be a fair bit cheaper OR we are able to buy more at once. And this also goes for diamonds and iron and all that too ofc. I am quite fond of this suggestion and will be supporting it. If the items tab was revamped to be cheaper I'd definitely buy some stuff!
     
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    em da smartest full support. pruces are crazy, getting them accomadated can help circulate a bunch pf great stuff and gets the server the donations we really need
     
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    If players sold items at the same rate as is sold in the skyblock shop, it would fall under the definition of scamming as given in the server rules.

    SCAMMING
    Scamming is the act of one player suggesting a trade to another and either a) taking the items and leaving or b) completing the trade, but having ripped the other player off.


    Now Drogo understands that at some stage, these prices were probably reasonable and there is no intention of ripping anyone off but it has been long known now that these prices are far from what they should be.

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    This young girl was told by her mother that she was allowed to spend $20 on in game currency. She did so in good faith that the webstore would not offer sales that were incredibly overpriced.

    Given she spent $22.50, she actually bought 50 grass but for the same money, she could have bought the Skyking rank and gotten it's perks and kits every 3 days and she would have been so much better off. And as has also been pointed out, she could have bought a gift card that she could have sold in game for over 1400 grass.

    Yes, all this information is there on the site and she should have looked through it a bit more but still, You are selling to very young kids who have an expectation that the prices are fair and comparable and they just aren't.
     
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    This is a comment that I hoped would pop up somewhere on this thread. The player probably was unaware of the shop pricing, and would have had more of a use by purchasing a tank, as 10 grass is not even $1 in trading terms. Like you said, it is definitely an issue for unaware new players that do not know that these prices are way different than in game. If aware, the player could have sold that gift card and could have had 20+ stacks of grass instead of just 10 grass, or even buying a beacon, elytra, or something else off the shop more valuable at a cheaper price than the grass is also very confusing.
     
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    Unrelated, just wondering why you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person?
     
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    It’s just something Drogo does.
     
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    I was fluctuating between neutral and support - I ended up going with support. The suggestion is good and has merit. Drogo's point about people essentially being scammed is really accurate.

    With that said, I was considering neutral because I'm not a fan of the pay-to-win aspect of the server, and I don't want that part of it to get worse. (But ultimately, that goes beyond the scope of this suggestion)
     
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    Drogo wasn’t suggesting she was scammed as scamming requires knowledge that the trade is bad. The shop prices are just out dated and there was no intent to rip her off.
    But as we now raise this point and it has become known, this can’t be said if it happens again.
     
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    Support, seeing people buy 10 grass for $4.50 is beyond me.
     
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    Yeah that is my only reasoning to not make this suggestion in the first place however, the shop prices are not even close at all to in game prices so even raising a little bit wont make it pay to win still. The only way it would be paid to win is to exactly match in game prices with shop prices, but my suggestion is just to change the prices/item count a little bit, not to the whole extent of matching prices. That would favor those who pay for the server and give an advantage, and we all know how that goes. But yes, I do agree with your perspective here
     
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    Drogo finds it funny that the only input from staff so far is to come here and disagree with facts.
    Krissy, if you feel that’s a fair trade Drogo would love to offer you a trade. Drogo’s 50 grass blocks for a $25 gift card.

    Please understand that Drogo isn’t claiming that the server is intentionally ripping anyone off. Only that the prices are out of wack. It is to be expected that the value of thing change over time and we’re just suggesting the shop prices are adjusted in line with these changes.
     
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    I do not need to add anything to this post Drogo is 100% correct it is not it good faith to sell these items as such insanely high prices. And it is a shame to see the prices remain stagnant.
     
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    Would Krissy like to explain the disagree or do mods just naturally disagree with player suggestions. This server is a joke if nothing changes.
     
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    It's happened again.
    This young girl tells me she spent $20 on junk. The other items she bought had scrolled off the screen but Enchanting tables are free at so many islands and diamond picks are worth nothing! Drogo literally has over 1000 of them.
    Drogo gifted her a heap of enchanted picks and a bunch of grass as he felt bad she had blown her money.
     
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    Thank you for brining more awareness to this topic, and these examples are only further showing this issue. $9 spent for just an enchanted diamond pickaxe and an enchantment table is absurd. For $5 she would have been better off with a spawner, or could have spent the same amount ($9) and purchased a beacon, but all of the prices do not match each other and its very confusing.
     
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    For 5 dollars she could have gotten 5 stacks of grass. There is no reasonable explanation for having items (specifically at the price they are) on the shop website.

    Side note, Krissy its a lil funny how your response to others asking for your reasoning for your no support being a cookie emote.
     
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    I understand that $5 is equivalent to 5 stacks of grass, but I'm going by just the shop terms as gc trades are done by players, but my point still stands as the player could have gotten more for the price they paid.
     
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    A question for you Krissy. Rather than gift this girl grass and diamond picks upon recognising she was unfamiliar with the prices, if Drogo instead offered her a stack of grass and 10 diamond picks in exchange for a $20 gift card would this be considered a scam?
    It would seem to her to be a very good deal as to buy that in shop, would cost close to $70.
    Your disagreement would suggest that this trade would be considered ok. Personally, Drogo thinks it would be a despicable act on his part even though the deal is far better than what is offered in shop.
     
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