Expired Nick Ban Appeal

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  1. JAWD543
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    Punished account name:
    JAWD543

    Platform or server punished on:
    Economy

    Ban message if applicable:
    Nick abuse you have been previously warned

    Have you read the rules?
    Yes

    Do you think this punishment was incorrect?
    Yes.

    Why should you be unbanned?
    No where is the rules does it state that my Nick name was against them.

    Here is the rule I "broke"

    NICKNAME ABUSE
    Nickname abuse, commonly known as nick abuse, is the action of setting your nickname to impersonate another player without their consent or setting your nickname to inappropriate or offensive words. Players who break this rule will be asked to change their nickname. If they choose to ignore the request, further punishments will be given. Staff impersonation falls under this rule. Do not change your nickname to match a Staff Member's name without their permission. Confusion will arise in chat and the Staff Member will have a much harder time assisting players.

    My first nickname (demoteMeg) may have been offensive which I personally don't think it was rather I was just stating my opinion. But I should have known that those aren't allowed on this server and I apologized for my bad judgement (no harm in that statement just have found that opinion aren't tolerated anymore, no hate). I take full responsibility for the first name that one is on me. However my second nickname (megRespond asking meg to respond to convo) dosent seem to break any of these rules. It wasent inappropriate or offensive. It wasn't stealing / mimicking a staff members name it was simply a request for someone to respond. If you took offensive from that or form your view it was against these rules I apologized and politely ask you give me a breakdown of the rule I broke and how it fit that criteria. I meant no harm form the second name and ask you to reevaluate your decision on banning me.

    Please list any other times you were punished on Skyblock:

    -dirt trade
    -console ban

    If you know, tag the staff member that banned you:
    Cyk753

    Do you understand and accept our rules and code of conduct?
    Yes
     
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    Cyk753 Super Moderator Super Moderator Staff Applicant Advisor

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    Hello JAWD543. Thank you for taking the time to create an appeal. Novembree was quite clear about there being consequences for nick abuse when she spoke to you in game. Now, what you omit is that you had changed your nickname to megRespond right after Meggann had joined the game. And you had bought a lottery ticket while having that nickname. You were clearly trying to draw her attention. And since you had earlier shared your strong opinion (by using nickname demoteMeg), it was quite clear your action was an attempt to troll her. This is not an appropriate use of nickname. It is a way to avoid your mute to try to goad a staff member. This is disrespectful behavior. This in fact another form of abusing the nickname command.

    This is pointed out under the Code of Conduct (which you say you understand and accept).

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    Please understand that any of the above behavior by any means cannot be tolerated. It is a very hurtful and serious matter. Please write out, in your own words, definitions for each of those bullet points. This will help show you want to commit to rejoining our Skyblock community.
     
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    Hello Cyk753, thank you for taking the time to respond to my appeal. You are correct in saying Novembree was clear about the consequences and was clear I was trying to draw the attention of Meggann. However there was zero intent to troll her. I was trying to get Meggann to respond to a conversation we have here on the formus. I don't understand how getting her attention is a form of trolling. Sure changing Nick to avoid a mute is reasonable but no where in the rules does it say I am not allowed to buy lottery tickets with a nickname. There was no intent of trolling, disrespect or provoking with the use of my second nick. It was just a way to remind Meggann to respond to our conversation we have on the formus. (In second thought I should have used mail and will use this next time) You say this is disrespectful which I apologize for being, however I don't see exactly how reminding a staff member of a conversation we have fits under this definition. If you could reevaluate your decision on this ban it would be appreciated. If not could you show me the nick lottery rule and go into more detail on how my second nickname was disrespectful, because I genuinely don't understand how it is.

    Here is the write out :

    4. You must be polite and friendly to all members in the community. You cannot do the following (but not limited to) towards staff and players:

    Harass and/or Disrespect
    Making people opinions feel as if they are not allowed or invalid, saying bad words towards people in a manner to offend them, continuous use of these words, using your power over player to make them feel un welcomed.

    Stalk
    Following people around without their consent

    Bad mouth
    Saying bad words with the intent to cause harm

    Abuse
    Using your power over people for your own advantage, continuous use of this power

    Spread rumours
    Saying lies

    Threaten
    Telling someone you're gonna do something bad to them

    Argue (not sure why you can't have a discussion in chat but I digress)
    Trying to solve a problem by using your words

    Bully
    Use one of this methods to put someone down

    Troll
    Annoy someone

    Provoke
    Making someone mad

    Thanks JAWD543
     
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    Feel free to respond before closing the appeal. Would be very much appreciated. But non the less I'll save you some time.

    Thank you for creating an appeal. Your ban has now expired.
    Please make sure that you read our rules here before continuing on as normal!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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    Cyk753 Super Moderator Super Moderator Staff Applicant Advisor

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    You are missing the definition of harassment. You did write down some examples of disrespect though. The other definitions are generally acceptable.

    Harassing someone is when you persistently bother them, pester them, torment them. It doesn't have to be on the level of abusive language. It can very low level such as those J's you were reacting with on the Discord in your attempt to be defiant of staff and rules. Harassment is constant unwelcome intrusions you make onto another person. Changing your nickname to go bother Megan, along with all the other times you have bothered her, count as harassment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment

    Harassment - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms | Vocabulary.com

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/harass

    Harass Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

    Harassment is intimidating, hostile, aggressive, and toxic. The Code of Conduct is there to help protect everyone from such behavior. People are banned for being toxic to other players and staff members in addition to being banned for breaking regular game rules.

    You have been incessantly calling out for Megan and Sky's attention. Appeals are settled through forums, but instead of following through when staff ask you to stop breaking rules and taking the process seriously, you have treated the appeals a jokes and decided to leave troll responses. You have been sending them private messages demanding attention to settle your closed appeals though they tried to resolve them in good faith when the appeals were open. Particularly for Megan, you have left random rude ratings, using the poke feature, left unwanted wall posts, been grave digging, and trying your best to grab her attention.

    All these digs at staff is harassment. It is a mental and emotional drain to have to deal with that. When you harass someone, you are harming them. And this all started over a minor dispute on discord. You have been escalating your aggression and due to that you have been muted and banned in game too. If you cannot control your behavior and simply leave people alone, then the only choice is to you remove you from the community. When you logged in with an alt account, that was you avoiding punishment for harassment and so the only choice was to ban that alt account.

    And because you have been increasing your level of persistence, troll comments, disrespect, bullying, and provocation, the only choice staff have is to escalate punishment. If you continue to do so, bans will only get longer. If you continue this behavior on forums, we will start the punishment at 3 day mute instead of just a warning since you already had so many chances to correct your behavior on the other platforms.

    Staff do not want to punish people. Staff just want to help keep the peace. It is all up to you if you want to be a part of that or not.
     
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    The definition was merged with the disrespect definition your right I probably could have elaborated more on harassment. I also agree that appeals should be settle before they are closed however when the mods close the appeal and state that any concerns / question you can start a conversation with them, that's what I will do and have done. And you say that they have resolved them in good faith, however they still have not stated what I have done to warrent the mute on economy and anytime I ask them to provide info / proof they either don't respond or pass the problem on to another mod. Also I have been using the formus the way they are intented to be used. If a player says something rude then I should have the right to leave a rude rating on the comment even if they are a staff member. The poke feature is also a two sided feature. You can't poke someone who doesn't poke you back. Also I'm just giving light to some of the old post, it's the same thing as bumping the post. The troll appeals are just appeals that staff member don't take serious and thus leads to a bad appeal, sure I could have been nicer on those. Coming back to trying to get the attention of mods, how can a mod say that they will further explain the pushiment in a private conversation then never reply or give proof. It's quite rude and shows that they never cared to help out. The ghosting after stating they will further explain is the reason I was trying to get their attention. If staff would explain the pushiment properly none of this would have occurred. I appreciate that you are taking the time to explain to me what has happened and will happen and I do appreciate it. The alt account was also a accident. Not sure if you can check the play time or not but as soon as it said that I loged in I instantly left the server. I will try my best to be nice and respectful going forward and would greatly appreciate if you could explain to me my mute on economy as the other staff has failed to do so. I understand you were not the mod who gave it to me but so far you're the only mod who has taking the time to properly discuss an appeal with me. I would just like clarification on what I did to warrent the mute so I can prevent it in the feature. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond to this appeal.

    Thanks JAWD543
     
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    The nit picking is not helping your case. The total effect of all these actions is what leads up to harassment. I have spoken with Megan and am glad to hear this activity has stopped since I left the response on Tuesday.

    Megan did try to explain in the appeal that your in game mute was about disrespect towards a staff member (in this case her) as well as bypassing chat filters. Here is a screenshot of your chat comments. You said these two things:

    "also megan can kiss my ---"

    "like what the actual fu c did you just say"

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    The first comment is considered staff disrespect and trying to bypass filter. Though you did not actually write out the word, anyone can use context clues and fill in your intentions, so the meaning was still there. The second comment is you by bypassing filter. The full F word and other variations are blocked by the server and inappropriate, and very disrespectful to use in game (or most anywhere else for that matter), yet there it is in the chat.

    There was also a player report created about you from near the same time. You had encouraged someone else to break the same chat rules that got you punished on the discord as well as encouraged someone to break servers rules about dirt trading. The players to keep track of in the pictures is the one nicknamed as God and you nicknamed as JAWDbePushingJ.

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    So in fact we are looking at multiple chat infractions from you. Generally speaking, it is highly discouraging to see someone try to get others to break rules, even more multiple platforms, and get themselves removed from the Skyblock community.


    Appeals are considered more seriously and formally than normal conversation because this is where players will be held accountable as they explain their actions. Staff are generally looking for the player to behave maturely and acknowledge the words and actions they have said done. We are also looking for the player to admit how they hurt other people or brought down the community or the server and show they will follow rules in the future. There is some guidance about appeals in this link:
    Skyblock Official Site | Skyblock

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    So your responses in the original appeal are seen as incredibly lacking of substance in comparison to the above expectations.
    Skyblock Official Site | Skyblock

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    I hope this helps brings some clarity to your previous in game mute.
     

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    Hellow JAWD543. Checking in to see if you still have any questions or concerns. I will close this appeal after 1 more week.
     
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    Thank you for creating an appeal. Your ban has now expired.
    Please make sure that you read our rules here before continuing on as normal!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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