Closed Key Prize Changes (Rare Key Upwards)

JAWD543 · Jan 22, 2022

Calidre said: ↑

3 week bump! Keys still suck just as much as they did 3 weeks ago
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They have always sucked. Need a rework.

Calidre · Feb 23, 2022

Bump, keys suck and I'm hoarding keys because I don't wanna open them and be disappointed with my life

Calidre · Mar 14, 2022

Monthly bump time

Calidre · Apr 14, 2022

Though I can no longer spend hours at chests renamed "Crates" many others would still appreciate doing so with better rewards, so bump!

Queen · Apr 14, 2022

Calidre said: ↑

Though I can no longer spend hours at chests renamed "Crates" many others would still appreciate doing so with better rewards, so bump!
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It appears the players who put the most time and effort into the server, even more so than our own staff team, are punished severely for mis-stepping! GOD SAVE US ALL! It wont be long now until they ban every last one of us!

Emerald · Apr 25, 2022

Support!

Bumping this! I do agree that the crate system rewards do need a rework as they do not meet the economy's pricing, and it is more useful to sell keys than to use them at the moment, especially those who buy epic/legendary off the shop. It would be more satisfying to open these crates and having more balanced rewards.

MorayEel · Apr 25, 2022

Queen said: ↑

It appears the players who put the most time and effort into the server, even more so than our own staff team, are punished severely for mis-stepping! GOD SAVE US ALL! It wont be long now until they ban every last one of us!
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Every hour I spend opening my vote keys will be dedicated to the fallen Calidre! HOORAH!

abb · Apr 25, 2022

def support, i need better prizes

AdamCakezor · Sep 15, 2022

Bump, I Agree, this needs a redo for 1.19 for items that may not be available in skyblock, For Example, Amythest.

Glinnight · Sep 15, 2022

AdamCakezor said: ↑

Bump, I Agree, this needs a redo for 1.19 for items that may not be available in skyblock, For Example, Amythest.
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I support this

Calidre · Oct 16, 2022

AdamCakezor said: ↑

Bump, I Agree, this needs a redo for 1.19 for items that may not be available in skyblock, For Example, Amythest.
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Indeed, should be some crate specific items for the new update that might not be attainable any other way since I don't think they're adding every item in. Maybe things like amethyst and copper could be in common to rare crates as an extra.

Anyways, bump since keys still need improvements : )

Calidre · Dec 10, 2022

BUMP, MAKE KEYS BETTER IN NEW SERVER UPDATE THANK YOU

Brake · Dec 10, 2022

Calidre said: ↑

On both servers, some of the prizes in certain crates seem a little out of place and aren't always the best prizes. This suggestion is my opinion of what kind of changes should be made to prizes in Rare Crates and above.

For perspective here is the full list of every prize in the Rare Crate beyond:
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Basically I'm going to break down the prizes and go through my thoughts on what should and shouldn't be changed as well as some general ides for some tweaking.

General Suggestions:
Before I do the specific keys I wanted to mention my general ideas for some prize related suggestion. Part of the reason I made this suggestion is I believe the different between the highest valued rewards and the lowest in the crates is way too much of a difference.

Part 1: Rewards that are worth less than the key itself (on average, since price is always subject to change based on the playerbase) should be worth between 10-75% of the value of the key. This leaves PLENTY of room to still lose money because it is still a key to gamble with, but also gives not such a big loss potential when not gaining high-end rewards

Part 2: Prizes worth more than the key itself (again, subject to change) should take up 15-20% of the chances when using a key. Currently the percentage of chance for items that are more valuable then the key are as follows:

Rare Key Economy: 11.68%
Epic Key Economy: 14.43%
Legendary Key Economy: 17.82%
Rare Key Survival: 20.72%
Epic Key Survival: 16.33%
Legendary Key Survival: 9.60%

So currently 3 of the 6 crates fall into that category while the other 3 are either close or much less than that percentage range especially the legendary key on survival

Part 3 (Economy ONLY): Remove the keys that are of a lower tier in the crates. Rare currently has 3 Commons, Epic has 3 Rares and Legendary has 4 Rares. I suggest it be like Survival where the crates only give keys of the same rarity or higher

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In this next section I will be analyzing each key based on my percentages above and relating them to the current key rewards. There may be a few exceptions here and there and I will put *** beside those

Rare Key Survival:
Rare Key Value on survival is currently around 12-14 Grass per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at 1.2-1.4 Grass up to 9-10.5 Grass for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

192 and 256 Stone (Not even worth 1/10th of a grass)
8 Sea Lanterns (Not even worth 1/10th of a grass)
Diamond Pick (Worth roughly 1/4th of a grass)
***Chicken and Pig Disguise (Worth 0 grass but I suggest a max of 1 disguise per crate)

Epic Key Survival:
Epic Key Value on survival is currently around 220-250 Grass per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at 22-25 Grass up to 165-187.5 Grass for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

10 and 15 Grass Blocks (Could be increased to 20 and 25)
15 and 25 Iron (Again, could be increased to numbers such as 72 and 96)
192 Redstone (Worth 3-4 Grass)
5 and 8 Diamonds (8 Diamonds is an ok number but could maybe be increased to 7 and 10)
***Spider and Creeper Disguise (Stated above but again limited to 1 per crate)
***Enchantment Trail (Worth 0 grass but since it can only be obtained from crates then I'll allow it)
Enchant Table (Worth roughly 12 grass so should be removed or replaced)

Legendary Key Survival:
Legendary Key Value on survival is currently around 250-300 Grass per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at 25-30 Grass up to 187.5-225 Grass for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

20 Grass Blocks (Could be increased to something like 32)
30 Iron (Could be increased to 96 or 128)
***Lava Trail (Same idea as trail in Epic Key)
***Skeletal Horse and Elder Guardian Disguises (Normally I'd also say 1 per crate but since both are only obtainable through Legendary Crates I would suggest lowering the percentage from 5.95% each to something like maybe 2.50% each)

Rare Key Economy:
Rare Key Value on economy is currently around $13,000 to $15,000 per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at $1,300-$1,500 up to $9,750-$11,250 for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

$800 and $1000 (Have the money rewards go $1500, $2000, $3000, $4000, $5000)
64 and 128 Redstone (Use Redstone Blocks and have it be 24 and 48 Blocks)
Diamond Pick (Replace since it's only worth $3-500)
256, 320 and 384 Cobblestone (Not even worth $100 each)

Epic Key Economy:
Epic Key Value on economy is currently around $65,000 to $80,000 per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at $6,500-$8,000 up to $48,750-$60,000 for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

$1000, $1500, $2000, $3000, and $5000 (Have the numbers go $5000, $7500, $10000, $12500, $15000)
128 and 192 Redstone (Remove or replace this one)
Diamond Pickaxe (Remove or replace for sure)
384, 448 and 512 Cobblestone (Just, no.)
Enderchest and Enchantment Table (Worth $2500 and $3500 each so remove/replace)

Legendary Key Economy:
Legendary Key Value on economy is currently around $250,000 to $300,000 per key. This puts the 10-75% of the value number at $25,000-$30,000 up to $187,500-$225,000 for items valued less than the key itself. Using this percentage I would want these following items to be removed or replaced with something of higher value:

$2000, $3000, $4000, $5000, $10000 (Have the numbers go $20000, $25000, $30000, $40000 and $50000)
48 and 54 Iron (Increase the amount to 96 and 128)
Diamond Pick (Definitely remove)
25 Sand and Grass (Increase to 32 or 40 for each)
Enderchest and Enchant Table: (Just remove these)

That sums up the suggestion, if you want me to go in depth more specifically on any area of the numbers or ideas feel free to ask, and feel free to give your own thoughts on each section of the reworks, thanks for reading

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Crew will never change the crates, people still buy keys and he'd hate to ruin the economy- so he won't bother.

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